(05-01-2010, 01:53 AM)Hems4Him Wrote: As a 40yr old male transvestite, I'm tired of my 36 'nearly A' breasts. I'd like to fill out an A cup or even press on to B+.
Am I too old to start NBE?
Should I look into herbs?
A marketed product (bountiful)?
Some kind of pump?
Hey Hems,
This is jori. I am 25 year old woman. I'd like to say it is a pleasure to speak with you and to say don't be too ashamed, because your breasts are probably bigger than mines (barely an AA - to be politically incorrect, I'll just say flat chested) and I am a genetic woman. Who doesn't even have large nipples. So again, don't be too devastated about your size. An A-Cup is pretty good for many men trying to gain bigger breasts, and even a number of women who can't seem to get full sized chest or chest that at least has some weight to it.
Alright, I am going to give you a rundown of herbs and products that might help you or give you some options.
Ok...
#1 - Fenugreek (or Fennel seeds) with Saw Palmetto - Most scientific reports have showed fenugreek does not cause breasts growth, though a number of girls on this site, Yahoo Answers, and a few other odd internet forums have said other wise. It actually does provide growth for some women, which is understandable, since it is a
Galactogogue , a substance that promotes milk supply and flow and oftens interrupts/blocks/disrupts the dopamine system. Dopamine is also a prolactin inhibitor. As we all know if the prolactin levels in the body are increasing...you know that special area of your chest just might also see some increases, as well.
. Fenugreek Can be applied topically or taken by capsule or liquid. The best results are probably topical applications or liquid taken by mouth. Those methods absorb in to the body better than capsules. Lastly, Fenugreek is also a emmenagogue, which is a substance that either promote menstrual flow (or do the opposite andend or terminate a pregnancy) and are sometimes oxytocic. Most usually help infertile women become pregnant. How would this work in man's body? An herb would basically be telling your body that it is pregnant (when it is really not).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmenagogue
Popular ones are: (Black or Blue) Cohosh, Cotton Seed, Angelica (one of them is named Dong Quai - pronounced Gong Quai).
What's the point of saw palmetto? It generally prevents atrophy (sagging, reduction-basically shrinking) in the breasts and is often given credit to inhibiting and blocking androgen production. Though, it can be troublesome trade-off for younger women (and sometimes men), because it can cause impotency (but generally not), increase cellulite (reduction androgens/muscle tissue), and etc.
I've posted two responses in other threads concerning the combination of saw pal and fenugreek.
Other Galac to go gues: Alfalfa,
anise, astragalus, basil,
blessed thistle, boza,
burdock , brewer's yeast, caraway, celery root and seed, chickpea, dill, fennel (above), Iceland moss,
kudzu [which is pueraria], lettuce, lemon balm, marjoram, marshmallow (althae) plant,
milk thistle (cleans liver), nutsedge, okra, pea, purslane, sesame, soapwort, sponge gourd, spirulina, stinging nettle,
raspberry leaf, verbena, and
vervain
*Bolded: denotes more popular herbs.
Sidenote: Kava, should've been added for being helpful to breast growth, but it is not a galactagogue. Though, it is a dopamine inhibitor, probably more so than everything above and similar substances to it is known to cause mammoplasia, as it is frequently used in NBE products.
Galactogogues also usually work better with other substances or methods, that I will list below. And, you can substitute them, if by chance you are allergic to any of them.
#2 - The alleged feminizing herbs
It is controversial to say whether these herbs can cause alot of changes in male's body or a female body dominated by androgens. But, I've done alot of research over the last few months and found that there are herbs out there capable of disrupting testosterone production, DHT conversions (which triggers prostate cancer), and androgens.
Research, mostly points to
Peony and Licorice together has shown to substantially limit testosterone in a short period of time with small dosages.
Peppermint and spearmint tea can limit androgens and possibly slow facial hair growth.
Hops (capsules and pellets), if taken or eaten in large doses, 3,000 mg to 10,000 mg a day has shown to feminize the body (shrink testes, loss of facial/body hair,and fat redistribution).
Red Clover is a little bit weaker, but it does contain large number of isoflavones, like genistein and daidzein. So does Kudzu and another popular substance known as Pueraria Mirifica (White Kwao Krua). Mainly, because the properties of these herbs are seriously mimicking estrogen, like emmenagogue (listed above). Lastly, Red Clover is often used with Saw Palmetto and Fenugreek to improve results.
Wild Yam is mostly great, not because it can create estrogen, testosterone, or progesterone (which can only be done in laboratory). But, since it is a reputable vasodilator, which can create more blood flow into certain blood vessels by widen them. It's doesn't necessarily create breast growth, but it can aid in it through applicable creams or lotions (though aided by other herbs or massages).
#3 - Glandular/Protomorphogen Products and supplements - The most popular seem to be
Bountiful Breast,
Ultra Breast, and
Transfemme. Along with other bovine (ovine or porcine) grandular Mainly, because they contain bovine ovary as the primary source, usually 150 mg to 600 mg per pill. Bovine Ovary seems to be the most popular, but the others are pretty much just as effective especially, if they are lypholize (freeze-dried). It works on the concept that "like heals like." Mammal tissue heals other mammal tissues. But, it is kind of going off topic.
It's been for all intents and purposes the most popular method as far as supplements and herbs are concerned, at least on this board. Though, it doesn't work everyone (like some herbs do). Still, it probably works the fastest (seen and heard results ranging from a couple of days to 3 months). Maximum results are probably expected for usage period of 6 to 9 months. Also, another problem with bovine ovary, especially if a man is using it is the problem of impotence and potentially feminizing the body.
Though, you can look at Cheryl's picture pages as a golden achievement on the board for everyone taking NBE products, who started as a very small size (as most men do) and now has breasts that would make even porno stars jealous. Also, not to leave some of other girls out, alot of them are seeing results after finding the right combination of herbs and methods. I believe Cheryl only took
BO, saw palmetto, and noggleberry (a pump, I will mention latter).
#4 - Pueraria Mirifica
It is arguably to best to some, 2nd best to most of the others, while a few believe it is an ineffective product. It is somewhat more potent than the other phytoestrogens, even in small doses. Mainly, since its cellular structure is similar to estradiol, which is a type of estrogen cell. It is a miracle herb to some people, or a miracle scam to others. One company even got in trouble for trying to market it as a breast enhancement herb. Don't know what to say about this one, except read the Pueraria Mirifica section. Also, I would probably try the cream or lotions (like Fenugreek), if you can find them over actual caps, since you already have fairly good size breast. The creams or topical solutions when rubbed on the skin will specifically be absorbed into the area of the application.
#5 - Massaging, pumping, suction and nipple stimulation
One of the most underrated method of NBE is the physical application to your breast.
Massaging is pretty simple. You can use any type of routine you want, it doesn't have to be any thing specific just as long as it is done consistently and judiciously.
Pumping is probably the most popular, because the results are much faster. Popular ones on this site, include Noggleberry and Brava. There's ones that are on Ebay, like Pink Dual (Hidden Flower), Duel Exerciser Pump (y2women), or the generic ones that are most Adult novelty stores.
If you breast (and areolas) grow, and your nipples don't really change or if you simply want to increase the size of your nipples (I think they are more erotic than the breasts themselves are sometimes). You can either use
nipple pumps from Adult novelty stores or simply use a
snake bite kit. Any type will do, whether it is the simple two inch suction or the extractor (which looks like an injector, but has a suction at the bottom). After a few uses, it is said to increase the size of your nipples.
Lastly, nipple stimulation is probably one of the best methods to increase oxytocin (women and even men). Which can create more sensual (massages), because it reduces anxiety and stress, while trigger more sensitive reactions and blood flow to your breast.
#6 - Alternative methods, like magnotherapy or hypnosis
Not sure about these methods, because of the psychological aspect to it. And, those are much too unpredictable given varying temperaments.
#7 - What to buy?
Red Clover,
Saw Palmetto, and
Fenugreek (as cream, liquid, tea, or lotion) is a good starting point for BE. Still, it depends on the individual...
You can substitute things out, if you are allergic to something.
Or, you can be creative and use your own intuition and research to see which herbs might work really well together, if you think something else might work better for your body than the ones above. As you can use your own combination of galactogogues and/or emmenagogues Since, they are varying results among the NBE users or men and women in general, and even in research. For instance, I took a high dosage of hops, only to not have it effect to much on my body.
If the products above in the glandular section, like Bountiful Breast are too expensive or inaccessible. You can try these products:
Natural Sources (
Raw Female);
Solaray (
Female Caps, which contains bovine ovary, uterus, mammary, and a number of pytoestrogen and/or androgen inhibitors);
Ultra Glandular (
Ovary);
Ultra Raw;
FemGlan;
Ovary Plus; and few other glandular type products that are not overly priced.
Remember, the massages and/or pumping... you can do the massages with or without oil and lotions. But, the certain creams will enhance the effects, though by helping to widen the blood vessels.
You already have an A cup, I don't think it will be hard for you to achieve an extra cup or so...I believe that you can reach your destination by the late Feb to late March, if you start some time this month (even towards the end).