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#71

(28-05-2014, 01:18 AM)spoked451 Wrote:  
(27-05-2014, 04:38 PM)Lotus Wrote:  3 drops White Peony every day----> for once or twice? 200 ml=7-8 oz about?

The dropper can hold about 40 drops, so 2-3 x daily of the dropper full of the 40 drops mixed in with 7-8 ounces of water. (40-60 drops is roughly 1-2 teaspoons)

The suggested dose on the Iowa Select Herbs bottle says...
40-60 drops (1teaspoon/5ml)
2 to 3 times a day in juice or water.

but then that's what it says on all of their bottles so go figure.

Thanks spoked451 for the heads up!!
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#72

I have read in a pervious post the licorice change the voice?Is it true.It would be awkword in the Workplace.However i'd be very happy.If it would be beautiful female voice.Smile

Can the LR and WP change the face? (feminisation?)

LR and WP doesn't couse cancer?(Similer matter than estrogen)

How much bottle WP use you for a month?
"Licorice root comes in an (DGL) form:
Gycyrhizzin in LR is associated with many side effects in large doses De-Glycyrrhizinated licorice (DGL) has been tried and found to have benefit without the attendant side effects."

Where can i find this?

Thanks advisoryWink
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#73

(28-05-2014, 11:58 AM)Larana Wrote:  I have read in a pervious post the licorice change the voice?Is it true.It would be awkword in the Workplace.However i'd be very happy.If it would be beautiful female voice.Smile
I've never heard that about LR, do you have the post?


Can the LR and WP change the face? (feminisation?)

I'm not sure about this one either, I'd have to look into it to give you an honest answer

LR and WP doesn't couse cancer?(Similer matter than estrogen)
I haven't come across anything,

White Peony
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-32-PEONY.aspx?activeIngredientId=32&activeIngredientName=PEONY

Licorice Root
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-881-Licorice+root+LICORICE.aspx?activeIngredientId=881&activeIngredientName=Licorice+root+(LICORICE)&source=2

How much bottle WP use you for a month:

This one has lasted over 4 weeks so far for me.
http://www.amazon.com/White-Peony-Root-Extract-4oz/dp/B000OAXVK2/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1401290355&sr=1-1

"Licorice root comes in an (DGL) form:
Gycyrhizzin in LR is associated with many side effects in large doses De-Glycyrrhizinated licorice (DGL) has been tried and found to have benefit without the attendant side effects."

Where can i find this?

DGL Licorice Root
http://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-s...mg-90-caps

Licorice Root
http://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-p...g-100-caps


This one seems interesting, I don't remember seeing it before. I like that it's alcohol and sugar free, White Peony has 25% alcohol, I haven't found a alcohol free WP extract.

Licorice Root Liquid Extract (Alcohol and Sugar-Free)
http://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-p...-ml-liquid


Make sure you read the reveiws.
Thanks advisoryWink
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#74

Thanks.
DGL Licorice Root 750-mg as strong as,equal= Licorice Root 450-mg/ (without side effects)right?

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#75

Id like to know as well lotus I heard dgl licorice doesn't help as much non dgl. I heard after using non dgl licorice testosterone can drop 35 percent. I have had great results but I don't know how because I'm hard and horny all the time.
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#76

(29-05-2014, 03:23 PM)Larana Wrote:  Thanks.
DGL Licorice Root 750-mg as strong as,equal= Licorice Root 450-mg/ (without side effects)right?
(30-05-2014, 12:54 AM)roxyrolon Wrote:  Id like to know as well lotus I heard dgl licorice doesn't help as much non dgl. I heard after using non dgl licorice testosterone can drop 35 percent. I have had great results but I don't know how because I'm hard and horny all the time.

In large amounts, licorice containing glycyrrhizin can cause high blood pressure, salt and water retention, and low potassium levels, which could lead to heart problems. DGL products are thought to cause fewer side effects. Licorice can be found with glycyrrhizin removed; the product is called DGL (for “deglycyrrhizinated licorice”).
http://nccam.nih.gov/health/licoriceroot

Well the debate still goes on, you will find two opposing side's. My opinion is if you remove the glycyrrhizin you should still have the same constituents:

Constituents
• Triterpene saponins (3-15%): chief components glycyrrhetic acid, 18-
alpha-glycrrhetic acid, glycyrrhetic acid methyl ester, glabric acid, glabrolide,
uralenic acid
• Flavonoids: aglycones including liquiritigenin, isoliquiritigenin (its chalcone),
isolicoflavonol, isoliquiritin, licoricidin
• Isoflavonoids: aglycones formononetin, glabren, glabridin, glabrol, 3-
hydroxygIabrol, glycyrrhisoflavone
• Cumestan derivatives: glycyrol, isoglycyrol, liquocoumarin
• Hydroxycoumarins: including herniarin, umbelliferone, glycycoumarin, licopyranocoumarin
• Steroids: sterols, including beta-sitosterol, stigmasterol
• Volatile oil (very little): with anethole, estragole, eugenol, hexanoic acid


I'd rather have fewer side effects myself, so imo I'd choose DGL. I've done the homework on LR. Though someone can knock themselves out and do there own research if they prefer. (Good Luck cause it will leave you aggravated). Rolleyes

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#77

(27-05-2014, 04:38 PM)Lotus Wrote:  
(27-05-2014, 11:06 AM)Larana Wrote:  Lotus:

"WP-I would say every other to start then combine (all) in the second week. "

does it will good thing mixed these strong agents with PM?
you told me LC in every another day. Hmmm?

Yes, you would take all 3 together (LR-every other day though)

Let's see simple:

1500 mg PM (increased now) ok, good
450mg Licorice (every second day) or 250 mg? Yes
3 drops White Peony every day----> for once or twice? 200 ml=7-8 oz about?

The dropper can hold about 40 drops, so 2-3 x daily of the dropper full of the 40 drops mixed in with 7-8 ounces of water. (40-60 drops is roughly 1-2 teaspoons)

500mg Maca on every day,once-twice?

1x daily to start, increase when you feel comfortable to 2x daily

Thanks.How can you know so much things about it?Do you read it,or did you work in Pharmacy,are you a doctor? Big Grin

Lol, just from experience, somehow I can process most of it, the info is out there and sometimes re-reading it up to several times till it sinks in is what you have to do to get a handle on it, lol. (You can do it too, it takes time so patience is good) Wink

most of the time i don't understand biochemical operations, but the point is there Smile

Document as much as you can, photos, any interactions, how you felt, etc. (if at all possible, it's not necessary but it's just for tracking any results).

Do you think 2 to 3 droppers full of white peony every day makes sense? That seems like a lot! I know that's what it says on the bottle, but still, it won't last very long at that rate.
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#78

(30-05-2014, 08:52 PM)spanky Wrote:  
(27-05-2014, 04:38 PM)Lotus Wrote:  
(27-05-2014, 11:06 AM)Larana Wrote:  Lotus:

"WP-I would say every other to start then combine (all) in the second week. "

does it will good thing mixed these strong agents with PM?
you told me LC in every another day. Hmmm?

Yes, you would take all 3 together (LR-every other day though)

Let's see simple:

1500 mg PM (increased now) ok, good
450mg Licorice (every second day) or 250 mg? Yes
3 drops White Peony every day----> for once or twice? 200 ml=7-8 oz about?

The dropper can hold about 40 drops, so 2-3 x daily of the dropper full of the 40 drops mixed in with 7-8 ounces of water. (40-60 drops is roughly 1-2 teaspoons)

500mg Maca on every day,once-twice?

1x daily to start, increase when you feel comfortable to 2x daily

Thanks.How can you know so much things about it?Do you read it,or did you work in Pharmacy,are you a doctor? Big Grin

Lol, just from experience, somehow I can process most of it, the info is out there and sometimes re-reading it up to several times till it sinks in is what you have to do to get a handle on it, lol. (You can do it too, it takes time so patience is good) Wink

most of the time i don't understand biochemical operations, but the point is there Smile

Document as much as you can, photos, any interactions, how you felt, etc. (if at all possible, it's not necessary but it's just for tracking any results).

Do you think 2 to 3 droppers full of white peony every day makes sense? That seems like a lot! I know that's what it says on the bottle, but still, it won't last very long at that rate.

Hi spanky,

It's cutting it pretty close, some days have been skipped (not intentionally) and days of only 1-2 droppers. It's an issue with extracts imo at first ( a definite learning curve as opposed to oral intake).

Your guess is as good as mine, how's it been working for you?.
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#79

At significantly lower doses that 2-droppers, some slight effect on libido but not much else. Yesterday I stepped it up to 40-60 drops and will stick with it for a few days to see if there is a change.

What have you observed with your approach?
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#80

(31-05-2014, 01:42 PM)spanky Wrote:  At significantly lower doses that 2-droppers, some slight effect on libido but not much else. Yesterday I stepped it up to 40-60 drops and will stick with it for a few days to see if there is a change.

What have you observed with your approach?
I'm not doing drops, rather ml. so 3 ml twice a day. If I feel like it's working, I'll start ordering direct from Iowa Select Herbs provided I can figure out the threshold for free shipping. If you don't qualify, shipping is $40 Yikes!

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