(06-01-2012, 08:38 AM)Pansy-Mae Wrote: So to answer your question, in the malestrom of puberty, I might have taken up the option but it would have been a mistake which I would probably regret for the rest of my life.
Hmm... that is with hindsight... you don't really
know how things would have turned out if you had gone through female adolescence, secondary education, peer group involvement, all the things that add the "nurture" to "nature" which make a girl feel part of her gender-culture. It would, in hindsight, have been a mistake for me, because I would not have had the joy of my family, but without that foreknowledge, who knows?
Quote:Yes, thats true, but you are still missing what I see to be a vital difference and that is why I am using the TS and TG labels, because I still maintain that the G3 classification is too broad. Sure, it is a continuum so any sub-division will create an artificial boundary but at the same time, if you take away all external constraints there are some within G3 who do not wish to ever make a complete transition and some who can't wait ( and some who would like to go the whole way but are using their rational minds to over-ride their natural inclinations?). I neither want nor need to make the full transition.
Agreed entirely. All broad categorisations are going to have that problem. I think I've quoted Vitale elsewhere saying that many people stick with partial transitions (e.g. breasts only) mainly because they fear surgery.
She does seem quite attached to the full transition route though - and I think this is mainly because she is part of the orthodoxy. Like you, I disagree with this, so again we aren't so different.
That last bit in parentheses isn't
me by the way. I'm perfectly happy with a penis! I think the "she-male" or "T-girl" condition is ideal for someone who prefers women to men! (There's a reason why "heretic" appears under my name!), and I think society is coming around to accepting this. It makes little sense to allow civil partnerships between women but not to allow a trans-woman to keep her penis. (Perversity upon perversity?
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Quote:There is nothing in my life right now to stop me going to the doctor this morning and ask to be referred but nothing is further from my thoughts despite the baby boobs on my chest. I wish I had been born a woman, sure, but I know I am not and never can be.
Again, me too. (But surely when you say "nothing" that would be disregarding your wife?)
Quote:But to ask you the same question that you asked me above, "Would you have taken the opportunity if available back in your teens, when you were footloose, fancy free and assumed you would stay good looking for ever!?"
I don't know about teens, but if I had been an only child without jeering brothers, and non-dysfunctional, sensitive parents who told me about my choices, I may well have elected to delay puberty. As I indicated above, I think your feeling about whether you would have regretted it is debatable; I may well have, but it's really too difficult to tell.
I'm still of the opinion that we are dancing around a knife edge of differences !
B.
PS Further thoughts, added later:
I remembered hearing about Kate Craig-Wood on the radio, so looked her up:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/576...woman.html
http://kate.craig-wood.com/album.php?page=me
Interesting how she left her wife to transition (luckily no kids) yet is not successful with men, and has wound up with a woman!
Classic example of why facial fem. surgery should be available on the NHS and offered as an alternative to the (much more dangerous) GRS.
I would much rather be a shemale looking like Kate than someone with a vagina looking like this:
Grayson Perry
So I have to say, all things being equal, my preferred option would be to be 25, with my wife and penis, living as someone looking like Kate Craig-Wood.
(I hope that clarifies matters
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