(19-04-2015, 04:57 AM)hurricane Wrote: I am hoping to switch to synthetic HRT in the near future, if I can find and convince a Dr to prescribe it for a non-transitioning person.
You'd be surprised how many are on this path, who cares what other people think, it's your preference, forget thier labels. If PM or Hrt was the answer you'd see D-cups and partial feminization from staight PM. If Hrt (without SRS) was so successful, boob jobs, FFS, body implants (etc), wouldn't be needed.
(19-04-2015, 04:57 AM)hurricane Wrote: I am 5'10" and weigh 150lbs. I am wanting to feminize my body as much as possible. I eat healthy, dropped all alcohol and soda. Every time I go to the Dr, I am complimented on my blood pressure, so I am not opposed to the idea of self medicating on synthetics if that would boost my feminization over herbal.
Your weight and good blood pressure would indicate a higher (albeit healthy) androgen level, and androgens (DHT) is the obstacle, not an impossibility though, I'll explain below.
(19-04-2015, 04:57 AM)hurricane Wrote: The only thing below that has been consistent is the PM. The rest changes usually every time I run out of something, I try something else.
Any suggestions? Here's what I'm currently taking:
Combining Hrt with PM is counterproductive, PM blocks out E2 at the receptor level. If you went with this program below, dropping the down PM down 1000 to 1500 mg would be more beneficial. Research (posted here at BN) has shown increased PM is ineffective do to its anti-estrogenic properties (daidizen, geneistien), PM is about .25 of estrone E1 (a weak estrogen). E2 (estradiol) fluctuates between E2 and E1, taking E2 (sublingual) with PC would be more effective for peripahal tissues (breasts). PC in the presence of E2 causes side branching for breast growth, and IMO sublingual E2 along with PC applied to the breasts is a viable option. DHT in the peripahal tissues is the major issue preventing breast growth, and.....overall feminization for that matter. Total testosterone isn't bio-active, only Free T is, and FT is carried by SHBG/albumin (carrier proteins), only 2-5% of Free T is active to receptors. Testosterone isn't the poison, it's DHT, without testosterone estrogen can't be made. There is another pathway that delivers estrogen, actually E1, and it's through the androstenedione pathway, mostly a peripheral action, (but another potential action of estrogen). 3 beta HSD stands between most of the steroids we consider important for growing boobs and feminization. Like a light switch, the signal can be turned on and off. When signals are blocked it's signaling slow to no growth at all, (e.g. estrogen dominance), then it's time to cycle. This is where PC corrects the over saturation of estrogen receptors, which basically means, returning estrogen receptors to their original state, 2-3 days of straight progesterone should (minus all supplements) do the job. Additionally, you could cycle off supplements for up to 2-3 weeks if so desired. 95% of testosterone is generated by the testes, the remainder is from adrenals, DHT is 95% present in the liver, BPH is most likely estrogen driven, FYI, be careful. E2 is also synthesized in the liver, and there's where the liver is mostly ER-a (estrogen receptor alpha), that's the pro-breast growth receptor. E2 has a better chance at Er-a than PM, which has a affinity for ER-b (estrogen receptor beta) it's a protective receptor against breast cancers, and it modulates ER-a (tones it down). Now, the aurgument can by made to simply by-pass liver metabolism and go straight sublingual, transdermal or intra-muscular. Whats the most beneficial?, it's your choice, everybody is different and its personal preference, mine is sublingual w/minimal standard delivery supplements. And no offense here, a minimum of 3-5 years is probably what you're looking at to gain that feminization (without surgeries). It's ironic defining the path people take, who cares where you sit on the gender binary contiminum, it's a sliding scale, if you wish not to transition, great, so be it. People come and go here at BN, that's entirely their choice, some come back to NBE because they're not completely satisfied with Hrt, that's cool too, you'll find support here no matter what you choose. Some get hung up on defining what we are and how we live. What form of NBE or transition is in-material, or how we define it.... big deal, I love the Morgan Freeman line "get busy living", only throw in "loose the chip on our shoulders", defining behaviors gets old.
Best of luck to you Hurricane and others.
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This is a good NBE plan, here's some suggestions
Ainterol | Pueraria Mirifica R1 500mg Capsules
Website
1000mg Morning/Night - Total: 2000mg Daily
Iowa Select Herbs LLC | White Peony Extract
Website
1 dropper squeeze sublingual Daily - I swallow some so I'm not sure what that translates to..
Spread out the dose to 3x a day, and 5 minutes after taking PM
Nature's Way | Fenugreek Seed | 610mg Capsules
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1220mg Morning/Night - Total: 2440mg Daily
2x (am/pm)
Pure Health Trends | Natural Progesterone Cream: USP Pharmaceutical Grade | 24mg/pump
Website
12mg Morning/Night - Total: 24mg Daily
(Is it paraben free?, that's an xenoestrogen) where do you apply it?,
RiteAid | Prenatal Formula with Folic Acid | Multi-Vitamin
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1 Morning - Total: 1 Daily
Adding essential fatty acids is beneficial for overall health but also for NBE,
Coconut oil (either skin/oral is ok) (pro-aromatase, pro breast growth, 5 ar inhibitor)
Omega 3 (cod liver oil, chia seeds)
Evening primrose oil (5 ar inhibitor, pro- aromatase)
Walnuts 1/4 cup daily
Massage is definelty a must, it's all about stimulating blood (regardless of any breast tissue), getting the blood going delivers hormones to the breast receptors.
Edit: Laptop ran out of batteries as I was trying to post this.
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