(30-04-2015, 06:17 AM)WantAPair Wrote: Most guys don't want to screw other guys, not even if it's a really hot, sexy, gorgeous woman that USED to be a guy, but, he's stupid enough to put down all women and risk severely screwing up his chances of ever having sex with a woman again (if they were to ALL stand together against such forms of thinking and treatment). Even sadder is that most women probably think most guys think that way, thus, screwing it up for the rest of us!! I can't even tell a woman, "I'm not like other guys." (Because I'm NOT!!!!), because MOST guys use that AS a line and then end up taking advantage of the woman, who then learns NOT to trust ANY guy that says that!!
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Please see previous rant re: "but, he's stupid enough to put down all women and risk severely screwing up his chances of ever having sex with a woman again"
Again, who's really privileged, who's really showing solidarity? ;-)
(30-04-2015, 06:17 AM)WantAPair Wrote: Even sadder is that most women probably think most guys think that way, thus, screwing it up for the rest of us!! I can't even tell a woman, "I'm not like other guys." (Because I'm NOT!!!!), because MOST guys use that AS a line and then end up taking advantage of the woman, who then learns NOT to trust ANY guy that says that!!
True dat. How long have women been told that "men are only after one thing?" But you know (I believe) how essential sex is to a "normal" man. It's not a "nice to have." It's something akin to air, water, food - a basic necessity.
Which goes back to the same question, who is privileged? ;-)
I find it TRULY sad how women have debased themselves from being beautiful, to so often becoming horrors aping masculinity (while demanding all the privileges of the "fairer sex.") They earn as much or more than I do - but I must pay for the dates? They're as strong as I am - but I have to hold the door, lift the weight, do the moving? And yet, if we cook at home, if SHE does the cooking, I must do the cleaning up. If I do the cooking - guess who does the cleaning up?
Which one of us is keeping score again?
So, why do women want all the positives of "being a man" (for which they notice only the C-levels; all other males don't count), refuse to do the things that attract a man (dress well, speak well, motivate him to improve himself [not by nagging, emasculating, or treating him like a child]), be educated, well-read, sensible? If they're emotional? It's the hormones. But hell's fury will hit a man who says the same! She's PERFECTLY logical even when she's on a crying jag, screaming the house down, beating the dog, belittling and/or emasculating a man.... {SUUURE she is...}
There is in fact a "theory" that one of the reasons Bruce proceeded was because of the treatment at the hands of Kris Jenner (Kardassian). (I don't believe it, having watched about half the interview, but it was interesting to consider. Been there, done that, if you will. As far back as the "dark ages" of the '80s, when teachers gave NOTICEABLE preference to the girls - one even stating point blank she treated girls better than boys. I guess she was "evening the field"? Anyway...)
I'd suggest we take a GOOD look at who is earning degrees. Who is earning ADVANCED degrees. Who is struggling and failing in schools. Who can be the "stay at Home *parent" without scorn. Who is PRESUMED to be a child molester, cannot even approach children in public without potentially being labelled a predator. Who gets more choice in clothing? Who decides what beauty is? (Actually, seems to be gay males at this point, but I digress; it used to be women.) Who determines which men are attractive? Who decides which males are NOT men? Who decides to have sex, even inside a marriage? (Marriage has a certain "contract" aspect, traditionally; she brings sex, he brings resources. Now, he must still bring resources, but she can come and go and do what she wants. Including cuckold him, and the courts force him to pay for the child.) Who is earning better, if you do an apples-to-apples comparison? {E.G., female engineers earn more than their male counterparts; so do female nurses. And in construction? She waves the flags, he does the work. Same in the military; it's rather blatant when a female marine states, point-blank, that women don't belong, citing injuries, stress of the job and resilience to those conditions. And she was a combat vet. Not to mention the mechanic's stories of carrying the toolbox for Little Miss because she couldn't carry her OWN toolbox. Etc.)
I'm really on a bad day, I guess - but I don't see the "discrimination" myself. I see most men worshiping women, seeking their attention. I see women, almost like cats, doing what they want, when they want, and - most importantly - expecting SOMEONE ELSE to pay for it (social safety net, free child care, SNAP, etc.)
Ultimately?
Men must bust @$$ to show they are "worthy" of being men.
Women need to show up, and the men fall all over themselves - and the women have known this since time immemorial, and now made it institutionalized sexism.
If they had any stones themselves, they'd be arguing about women's rights in Yemen or Saudi Arabia or UAE.
Instead they complain about the "glass ceiling" (demanding the time they take for raising children not count against them when it comes time for promotion, for example), argue unequal pay (except when they are better-paid; not a squeak when men get the short end of the stick); and STILL demand preferential treatment WRT college admissions, single-sex gyms (and other establishments; when's the last time you heard of a men-only club - of ANY kind?), and still want to decide who IS and IS NOT a "man" by their standards - yet they bitch and moan if men seek to impose any sense of decorum or standards to clothing, manners, or beauty. 500 pounds is a "BBW" ("Roll her in flour and check for the wet spot." Gross? Yes. Do they tolerate a man who is that heavy? Not that I've seen, barring maybe a linebacker here and there. Even at 6'+, it's just TOO MUCH MEAT. And a man will have more muscle, which is denser than fat, and therefore weighs more. But if she's got 6 chins, she's fine.... And don't you DARE suggest otherwise.)
I'm going to just walk away, I have said too much, and been somewhat nasty about it.
Since I am not even remotely "fit," I am guilty of the same shortcomings.
Difference is - I admit it, and try to improve.