(19-03-2017, 03:01 AM)Lotus Wrote:
(17-03-2017, 10:02 PM)BlueCoral Wrote: For licorice, should I be using licorice root or DGL?
Long time no see btw, I like the new layout of the site.
hi BlueCoral, (I was thinking of you last week),
dgl licorice removes most of the risks associated w/standard licorice root. However, I don't find either to be beneficial for NBE anymore. I say this based on the large amount of research I've found over the past 5 years (in my opinion fwiw).
(29-11-2016, 11:17 PM)Lotus Wrote: Licorice root is counter productive for NBE/Hrt, dgl form too.
(17-11-2016, 04:33 AM)Lotus Wrote: LR oxidizes NAPDH and inhibits P450 enzymes, what's more interesting (imo) is the latter part. Meaning I see LR inhibiting aromatase, not potentiating it. Oh sure LR binds to estrogen receptors, but that's where I think it ends. My reasoning is what it isn't doing to the P450 enzyme, (i.e. not synthesizing it).
Agonistic and antagonistic estrogens in licorice root (Glycyrrhiza glabra)
Several fractions displayed higher responses than the maximum response obtained with the reference compound, the natural hormone 17β-estradiol (E2).
The roots of licorice are a rich source of flavonoids, in particular, prenylated flavonoids, such as the isoflavan glabridin and the isoflavene glabrene. Fractionation of an ethyl acetate extract from licorice root by centrifugal partitioning chromatography yielded 51 fractions.
One third of the fractions displayed estrogenic activity towards either one or both estrogen receptors (ERs; ERα and ERβ). Glabrene-rich fractions displayed an estrogenic response, predominantly to the ERα. Surprisingly, glabridin did not exert agonistic activity to both ER subtypes. Several fractions displayed higher responses than the maximum response obtained with the reference compound, the natural hormone 17β-estradiol (E2). The estrogenic activities of all fractions, including this so-called superinduction, were clearly ER-mediated, as the estrogenic response was inhibited by 20–60% by known ER antagonists. Most fractions displaying superinduction were rich in flavonoids with single prenylation. Glabridin displayed ERα-selective antagonism, similar to the ERα-selective antagonist RU 58668. Whereas glabridin was able to reduce the estrogenic response of E2 by approximately 80% at 6 × 10−6 M, glabrene-rich fractions only exhibited agonistic responses, preferentially on ERα.
Good to see you to Lotus.
I'm trying to figure out what to take, so that I don't take a herb that's doing the same thing as another.
How good is HGH vs. Gaba or Deer Velvet? Paba versus grape fruit?
Another test I'm thinking of is switching to Bovine Ovary (is it true that you need to maintain a certain body temp for it to work?) for estrogen, pro-aromatase, and 5-AR inhibiting; and Spearmint/Pygeum for an anti-androgen . Now that I'm thinking about starting again after a year, I think I'll not take PM since I've heard there's a global shortage of it recently or something.