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Hi I'm Kimi

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Thank you for the welcomes and pointers – very much appreciated.

Just following some of the discussions, not strictly on NBE itself, but on the other “things” (psych, social, etc.) that go with, has been very educational and enlightening – so I’m actually not the only “one” going through these things – LOL – yeah, I knew I wasn’t all along, but it’s still encouraging to see/hear it from others.

Grab yourself a coffee, beer, wine, whatever, I tend to ramble...

Now…. where did I get up to before? Ah, yes… OK
So, like I said, I’m a long term bi-TV/CD – although I’m not sure whether that statement’s completely accurate now – if I’m on the path to boob-age, should I refer to myself as TG? Not looking for an answer, just putting it out there…

Anyhoo, a few weeks back, the 10th December 2015, to be precise, after a long period of soul searching and research, I started on this next stage of my evolution. I’d been pondering over it, for a long time, and certainly didn’t make the decision lightly - although when I did, it was actually a lot easier than I thought, and seemed almost “natural” – on that fateful day, I’d just woken up, and my brain said, “Take photos and buy herbs!” So I did exactly that, without any second thoughts.

And now I’m both excited and shit scared of the outcomes, all at the same time.

I should also say that, from day-1, whilst I chose to deliberately head down this path (it wasn’t something I was playing at, or messing around with), I wasn’t really convinced that anything would happen – I half expected to buy a few weeks/months-worth of herbs, and end up back where I started, but a few bucks poorer. And to some extent, I’m still a bit sceptical, but, I can sense/feel things have “changed” – so what I now need is actual comparative photo proof of something having “happened” to me to finally convince me - and I’m beginning to believe that it’s on its way, I just need to be patient.

So why now, and why not 6, 12-months, 5-years ago?? A good question - I really don’t have a definitive answer. I know that over the past couple of years there have been some fairly significant events, both in my life and friend’s lives, and I suppose I’ve come to that point where I’ve finally realised this is not a rehearsal, so you’d best get on with it, do what’s right for you, and, to a great extent, screw the consequences.

To that end, and purely as an example, whilst I’ve had many “hidden” piercings for 20-something years, I finally had my tongue pierced last May. Now I understand that piercings are not everyone’s idea of fun or even nice/desirable – but that’s not the point I’m trying to make. To me, getting my tongue done was the realization of a long term desire, kind-of like a rite of passage. Getting something so visible (if you want it to be) and traditionally viewed as being a far more female piercing than male, was a big step towards being more comfortable with being “me”, and becoming far less concerned with what others might think. My journey to having some boobs, is the same thing, satisfying a long term need, and becoming more “me” – true, it is somewhat more permanent/extreme – I can take my tongue piercing out – but losing boobs, ain’t that simple.

I love, and want to maintain, both sides of my life, personality and character traits - I’m a guy, with a female partner and kids; and I love guy things – “Me Tarzan you Jane”, beer, cars, women… now! But, put me into something slinky, with a pair of sheer stockings and heels, and I’m slutty Jane on the hunt for Tarzan - LOL.

My personal preference in the shape of women’s bodies, my overall body shape, and my desire to maintain my guy-side, has given me my initial limits for this particular journey. I’ve always been more a butt and leg man, than a boob man. Big boobs, well, they are just magnificent, I can’t deny that, but personally I’ve always loved, preferred, desired, the smaller, athletic, nicely put-together, perky ones, which are just right “there” (if you know what I mean), with some jiggle and wiggle and not too much bounce – that’s what I’m aiming for. I can see that some of you have achieved that particular look/size as part of your journey to “bigger and better”, rather than as an end state, so I’m reasonably confident I can get there as well - I think they’ll fit nicely on my body, but we’ll have to wait and see.

I’ve always had a strange shaped chest - it looks like I have a partially depressed sternum - it isn’t - it’s never been a problem, and no one’s ever mentioned it, be that docs, or friends, lovers, etc. But it does give the appearance of it being more “pectoral” than it really is – correspondingly it now gives the appearance of there being more boob than there really is. In some respects, I view this as good, because I may not have to grow as much to achieve my desired look, and it’ll help camouflage whatever growth I achieve, but it’s also bad, for exactly the same reason – and good or bad depends on whether I’m wearing jocks ‘n socks, or hose ‘n heels.

So, I can hear you ask, what’s your current size, and what are you aiming for? Pffft, I’m still a guy – I can’t answer questions like that.

Q: Oh congratulations on the new baby; how much did it weigh, what colour eyes, is there much hair, how long was the labour???
A: It’s a boy…..
Q: Yeah, and…? A: Err… it’s a boy!

As opposed to…

Q: Hey nice car! A: Thanks… it’s a ’70 C3, big block 454, 390 horse, 4 speed, posi-traction rear etc.

So, can you spot the difference?

I know how/what to measure, I do, I do, I just can’t do it right, the numbers are always different and inconsistent, so until I figure it out, my current rule-of-thumb “measuring stick” is one of my partners old bras – which is a 38C.

From a band and strap perspective it seems to fit OK, albeit on the final set of hooks and probably “stretched”; my normal jacket size is 42L – I’m therefore taking a stab at saying I should be looking around a 40.

Cup size? Well the 38C has a fair amount of wiggle room, but I’m thinking a 1-1.5 cm growth in projection with a corresponding increase in fullness over the whole breast area, and it might be nicely filled.

So, after all that postulating, and theorizing, I believe I’m currently in the region of a 38A/40A, with my sights set on a nice B. I think that’ll match the look that I’m aiming for: a pair that can be visible and obvious when I want them to be, but kept on the “down low” when I don’t. I’m going to go back and have another perve at all your photos and make a better notes of what you achieved, and translate that into a more accurate “vision” for myself.

Butt, there again, I might be just talking out of my ass – I’ve never thought that closely about this “size and potential” thing before, so I’ve no idea what’s actually achievable? Will my personal genetics allow me to achieve what I want, and, can I actually be that prescriptive? Again, not looking for answers, but that’s just where my mind is at right now.

Anyway, you’ve done enough reading now, so to round this whole “intro-thing” up with some extra stuff: I’m mid-50s and getting older; 5’ 10” in my bare feet; around 200lb, and could do with losing a few of them; I’m happy with my butt - it could be firmer, not bigger; I’ve already got wide hips, so I reckon if/when I lose my love handles and small beer belly I reckon I’ll be all set - the curves should be there, and hopefully the boobs will have appeared by then to complete the vision; my feet could be a size or two smaller, which we all know ain’t going to happen (the choice of heels in size 11 shoe is terrible, unless you want to pay a fortune) and I’d love an extra inch or two ….. errr, well, you know where, but that’s a completely different topic of conversation.

And finally, yes, my partner knows I’m on this journey, and while she’s kind-of OK with it, she’s not really 100% supportive. But I’m OK with that, we’ve been together long enough, and been through enough, for each of us to “understand“, if not necessarily agree, on our differences, and I know we’ll have some fun on the way.

So that’s it, me, summed up in a few (too many) paragraphs – thanks for reading, hope it didn’t bore you too much.
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welcome to the forum Smile
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#13

So it's been a while and thought I'd give an update. I decided to stop taking herbs back in early March - just over 3-months since I started. Why ? Not really sure - I know I ran out of my supply of pills at that stage, and just didn't buy any more - I've not regretted the decision to start, or stop, just wanted a "pause" I suppose, and see what happens... I'd also not really noticed any difference, so probably got a bit disheartened as well.

Anyway, stopping the pills didn't stop me wanting boobs, and recently I've been considering starting again.

So, today I did some "before and after" photo comparisons, just to see whether anything had happened, and the results are below (or at least I hope they'll be somewhere on this thread - not posted photos, so not sure just yet).

Now I know they're obviously not going to be huge, wasn't expecting anything at all actually, so what little I've had is quite amazing to me - some of you may not even see any, but I can, and I suppose that's what counts. I'm actually quite stunned that 3-months on some "low-dose" regime has made (to me) such a difference.

Measured today, and I reckon I've gone up nearly a cup size, which I find quite astounding - I'm really pleased with myself Big Grin


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You can see a little more definition starting to build. It looks like mostly fat deposits so it will fade away unless you start the herbs again. Few months is not enough to build anything permanent.
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Welcome aboard Kimi! ! Must be a follower of Flat 2 Fem program. It's a nice starter for like the first year.... But, to get to a proper C cup, I think you will have to go at least PM..

There is tons of info and insights on this forum... So pull up a chair.[/align]
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Yeah I think "definition" is the right term to use, although they're both heading towards a big handful when "cupped" (I do have small hands though... LOL).

Anyway, went out and got some more pills today, so off we go again. I'm still going to stick with my original program (yes, it is a cut-down Flat2fem one), as I'm just taking things slow right now.

I can't say I'm definitely aiming for a C-cup, I'm just using an old 38C as a sizing gauge for the time being - I kinda think a full B is achievable, without them being too obvious (on my frame) but we'll see.

I found some PM "serum" on eBay, from a local-ish Aussie seller - $40 for 50g so might invest in some - its not Aniterol, but it might be worth a try
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#17

To maintain penis function I have become a Jelking exercise exerciser. I named my penis Giant. He is called that by me and my wife. I use horny goat weed with maca for bloodflow help. Also viagra. My sexual needs changed to be more anal with prostate release anal and regular orgasm. I have noticed some testical shrinkage and recovery. The recovery is full when I take a break. I also revolve betweem BO and PM.
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(13-04-2016, 11:02 AM)kimi9r Wrote:  So it's been a while and thought I'd give an update. I decided to stop taking herbs back in early March - just over 3-months since I started. Why ? Not really sure - I know I ran out of my supply of pills at that stage, and just didn't buy any more - I've not regretted the decision to start, or stop, just wanted a "pause" I suppose, and see what happens... I'd also not really noticed any difference, so probably got a bit disheartened as well.

Anyway, stopping the pills didn't stop me wanting boobs, and recently I've been considering starting again.

So, today I did some "before and after" photo comparisons, just to see whether anything had happened, and the results are below (or at least I hope they'll be somewhere on this thread - not posted photos, so not sure just yet).

Now I know they're obviously not going to be huge, wasn't expecting anything at all actually, so what little I've had is quite amazing to me - some of you may not even see any, but I can, and I suppose that's what counts. I'm actually quite stunned that 3-months on some "low-dose" regime has made (to me) such a difference.

Measured today, and I reckon I've gone up nearly a cup size, which I find quite astounding - I'm really pleased with myself Big Grin

Good progress , congrats
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