[Mindhak]

I see people on here say HRT is more E then PM, but I also see people posting changes sooner on PM then HRT.  Am I missing something?

[HelloDiDi]

PM is not bioidentical estradiol. Its phytopestrogen which mimics its effects. Its not the same thing, its much weaker and slower to change things. PM might cause more just boobs only, but bioidentical estradiol will cause over all feminisation, everything, the whole deal. You're comparing apples to oranges, they're totally different in almost every aspect.

HRT is not slower, it is faster to make bigger changes because its more than just growing some boobs. Conventional HRT should not be toyed with. It will transition your body to female in such fundamental level. A cis man doing it will likely feel terrible and should never do it unless they're not a cis man at all. So proceed with caution as conventional HRT is much much stronger than any phytoestrogen on its own will ever be.

And there is no question which one is better, HRT always wins hands down in everything, but its not something anyone should do without careful consideration.

[wee2er]

DD is correct, PM/herbs are very different than HRT.
I started on PM, then as I wanted a more overall feminine look I switched to HRT, although I'm still male staying male.
As such it depends on your goals so being very simplistic PM/herbs = breasts and HRT = overall femininity