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Even with Herbal treatment: it is possible
July 25 2007 at 9:14 AM jaysmart (Login jaysmart)

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I am a male who has used simple herbal treatments. Believe me, some breast growth and female fat distribution to the butt and hips is easily POSSIBLE! I will post some pictures soon, but after about 6 months, people at work are staring at my chest and my butt looks MUCH better than my wife's! Don't know how long I will continue, just like the feeling of something different.



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Morticia (aka moonstruck)
(Login moonstruck61) Re: Even with Herbal treatment: it is possible July 25 2007, 9:21 AM


Do tell all!

What items are you using and at what dosages?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Especially the improved butt part!

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Davilee
(Login Davi-lee) Oh yeah.....yes indeed.... July 26 2007, 7:25 AM


Who doesnt want a bigger rounder wider caboose??heeheeheehee
Speaking of which......Oh my gosh,Im really filling out now pals.
I have been patiently watching my butt and hips slowly getting fatter and the fat deposit spots are growing closer together and melding into one overall thick layer.....Wahoooooo! I was looking at me today,and it wont be too long that Im going to have the woman shaped rear that starts up the back and rounds out smoothly and curves down into my thighs.
Its really interesting to feel how firm the new tissue is,Sure,oh yeah I giggle alot when I shake it, but when you grab it and squeeze its quite firm.
This process must change your muscle groups around also;making certain ones larger because I definitely have some different muscle thingy going on.
Im working on my hips now trying to build the muscles bigger and fill in the little depression that I have on the side behind my frontal hip muscle.
This may sound silly but Im doing belly dance and Hula moves to build that particular muscle up.
It seems so far to actually be a good way to isolate those muscles,and not do real heavy workout that may burn off the fat. Im all about the fat deposits right now and making girly hip muscles.
I was way surprised at how sore I got from doing those moves.You'll know you did something if you do them for 15-20 min.
The weird thing is,my boobs really started aching when I started doing it.HAHA!Its True!
I guess it got the blood flowing through the mammary arteries stronger.
And the solar plexus area will hurt too,just below the ribs.
Im going to put my pics up when I feel like I look good enough.
Im going to put one in for my avatar,I'll do that right away.
Anyway,I need to stop the MEMEME stuff.....I think that the new jay' is talking about Estroven. I will wait to comment until further info.
Its basically Black Cohosh and somethin somethin,I looked it up in the drug.com database and it wouldnt tell what was in it.Proprietary info.
No fun.


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Morticia
(Login moonstruck61) Re: Even with Herbal treatment: it is possible July 26 2007, 8:18 AM


Yes indeed, it does work and quite well.
I started doing this in early Jan of this year and beyond any shadow of a doubt, I've got female tits and female legs.
My ass is also looking rather female too but my hips haven't widened out yet to give me that lovely feminine hourglass shape.
That's the hardest thing to achieve, most transwomen don't get width in the hips like biochix for several reasons, one reason being the hip bones i are structured differently and secondly a lifetime of genetics on their side vs a few years of hormonal games at best. If you see a transwoman with an obviously feminine hourglass shape she's either extremely lucky or has had some sort of enhancement surgery done.

Still, it's amazing that we can turn nature upside down just by swallowing some ground up leaves from some common plants..

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Davilee
(Login Davi-lee) HA! I forgot something... July 26 2007, 8:19 AM


The Semen thread over thar, has a new post providing a link to a site that shows that partaking will make some womens butts bigger.


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Blu-Jay
(no login) Re: Even with Herbal treatment: it is possible July 26 2007, 8:33 AM


They can get that from eating McDonalds too!Smile


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Morticia
(Login moonstruck61) Re: Even with Herbal treatment: it is possible July 26 2007, 8:52 AM


Bahaha!! They're just trying to justify their c*ck hunger. But hey, that's cool.
If it would really work I'd do it too. "Get out of my way b*tch and give me some of that!"

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Davilee
(Login Davi-lee) Re: Even with Herbal treatment: it is possible July 26 2007, 9:08 AM


The Junk food will do it quicker...HAHAHA!


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Davilee
(Login Davi-lee) Some poor women ...... July 26 2007, 9:25 AM


Actually,Ive seen many women who have hips like men.Their pelvis's are narrow.
They are almost straight up/down. Now thats sad. They are way too thin to.
Their are a lot of genetic anomalies that cause weird gender twists.
Ive got a wide pelvis and my hips of course stick out even further.
Just for fun heres my measurements:
Basic chest under breasts: 33"
At breasts,just above areola: 35 3/4",I dont count around my nipples/areolas because they jut out so much,and makes it hard to measure.
Natural Waist :29-30",depends on how much Ive ate.
Hips/butt at fullest point: 37"
And thats the truth.


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Morticia
(Login moonstruck61) Re: Even with Herbal treatment: it is possible July 26 2007, 9:31 AM


Yeah but the other way is more fun.

Plus, this is usually what you get from McDonalds
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w279/...376f33.jpg





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Davilee
(Login Davi-lee) refer to last Morticia post on ck hungry... July 26 2007, 9:32 AM


Uh...I dont know...some of them are so appaled at the topic they act like they had just been dropped into the sex zones in Thailand or something.
They just keep saying how disgusting it is.
Geez,its natural thing man and woman sharing each other,thats what several of them are trying to get through to the prudeies.
Most are all for what shes talking about.


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Morticia
(Login moonstruck61) Re: Even with Herbal treatment: it is possible July 26 2007, 9:37 AM


Eh, they are all lying their asses off, they all are knob gobblers and they LOVE IT..
They just don't want to admit it to outsiders. In reality their denials are really secret female code for "I love knob gobbling!"



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Davilee
(Login Davi-lee) Re: Even with Herbal treatment: it is possible July 26 2007, 9:40 AM


Well,Im for it. Its just the way my brain works.



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Blu-Jay
(no login) Re: Even with Herbal treatment: it is possible July 26 2007, 4:37 PM


Have any of you ever tasted cum?
There's a reason why alot of girls say " OK but not in my mouth" hehehe Big Grin
I'd like to see what your responses are first!


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morticia
(Login moonstruck61) Re: Even with Herbal treatment: it is possible July 26 2007, 8:40 PM


yes but only my own.


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Blu-Jay
(no login) Re: Even with Herbal treatment: it is possible July 26 2007, 9:04 PM


Same here! I can't even imagine someone elses,For that matter,I didn't care too much for my own either.


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Davilee
(Login Davi-lee) The taste depends on what you eat... July 27 2007, 6:57 AM


I hang out on *.lpsg.org* and this comes up quite abit.
Most everybody agrees that you can change things that you eat and of course it will change the taste,consistancy,color of the semen.
The things that seems to make it taste really sweet are whey or protein drinks and taking certain supplements like lysine and L-argenine and zinc.
When I was taking alot of that stuff to experiment with increasing semen and the clear "lube" stuff,yeah it really worked when I was taking all those things.I dont know which one helped the best,as I didnt break it down and test each one separate.
The one thing that Ive noticed as ive been taking this new program,I produce a lot of that clear "lube" fluid,sometimes its drooling out all the time,I dont mind except it gets clothes all slimy.Its quite sweet.
Im still taking the whey and protein drinks.I stopped the zinc,because I figured it wasnt good for girl changes.I take the lysine and argenine in small doses,so I dont lose my weight.
Also,some guys said that it will taste more bitter the older it is,or the longer since you orgasamed last.
Some guys were going by what their girlfriends said and some people were commenting from personal experiences.



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Blu-Jay
(no login) Re: Even with Herbal treatment: it is possible July 27 2007, 7:42 AM


OK, Lets see if I can say without going into to much detail. It was years ago, a girl was doing the "Ahem" to me, after she had the load in her mouth, she kissed me and put it in my mouth. You get it!
To me it tasted salty and left a tingle on my tongue. Not a tingle in a good way.


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Morticia
(Login moonstruck61) Re: Even with Herbal treatment: it is possible July 27 2007, 8:19 AM


Oh well, might as well fess up.
I always liked the stuff. From way back when I first started producing the stuff I would "partake" in it after relieving myself. I still do. It's a girl thing. Now that I take a lot of female hormones it's changed in taste a lot. It's not nearly as strong tasting, it's more mellow and a little sweeter now. Actually it's quiet good and I like it. Another very strange side effect of HRT is that before it wsa very thick like paste and barely came out on orgasm and the amount was very small. Orgasms were just lame and wimpy and weak and really not even worth the effort. Now, orgasms are insanely intense and continue on for longer than I can stand. Usually about halfway through one I start to worry that if it doesn't end soon I'm going to die because I can't take it anymore. It's just too intense. And before hormones, an orgasm would last maybe 1.5 seconds at the best. Just a brief moment of a hint of pleasure. Now after hormones orgasms last 30 seconds or more, I don't know but it seems like a very, very long time and it's powerful. And very messy. I can't imagine how so much joy juice can be in there. But it starts and it goes and goes and goes. And it gets everywhere. It just won't stop!

It got to be sooo messy that I had to start using condoms to keep it under control.
Well that works great because it not only solves the messy problem but it puts it all in one convenient place that's easy to handle. So after I've drained myself and I've laid there for 2-3 minutes having numerous aftershock minigasms I remove the condom and have myself a little protein snack.
Why not? It came out of me, I just put it back in. It's not bad at all and it's high in protein.
It makes me feel very catty and even hours later I'm still glowing from it.
And like I said, I have so much anti-androgen and estrogen and other female hormones in me that the stuff has to be pure estrogen juice by now. I can't imagine that there's any testosterone left in me anymore.
And it also tastes much better than ever, sweetish and gentle but still obviously semen, just "New and improved female semen"..

Yes, I'm a nasty b*tch. We all have our kinks for kicks. At least mine is harmless.
There, now it's all out.. But hey, I don't care. I'm a woman despite this birth defected male body but I'm working to correct that problem. And once I've had my surgeries to fix everything I'm going to enjoy life a little. I love women and I may end up learning to love men too. I doubt it but maybe I'll learn to tolerate them at least long enough to get banged good and hard someday.
I've been told that these orgasms are female type orgasms. Well, I've watched lots of porn and I've never once seen a male have an orgasm even fractionally similar to mine. But I've seen plenty of women have orgasms that are like mine, at least in duration and intensity plus the aftershocks aka minigasms..

I just hope that surgery I'm still able to get off this well or hopefully even better. It would suck if they mess me up and I'm unable to get off ever again. I've heard that most women that had SRS before about 1997 have a lot of trouble getting off and that the majority of them have a non functional clit, it's just totally without sensation and they are totally unable to reach orgasm. Ever. That would suck.
Now they've perfected the process and you get a normally working clit and you can even request how big it will be. Well, I want mine to be normal I guess but I want big giant labia minora, like elephant ears. Smile
Don't ask why but I just like em that way. Why not? I have more than enough to work with, they can make my new kitty anyway I want it. Main thing is, I want it functional. As long as it doesn't resemble my current plumbing and it works, I'll be extremely happy!


Estrogen is having a profound effect on the way I feel about things.
I have watched every variety of porn on earth.
Gay porn? No thanks. Doesn't do a thing for me and it really grosses me out.
Tranny porn? Oh hell yeah! I can go there for sure. Just about my very favorite variety of porn.
Straight porn? Ho hum..... Not really my cup of tea, but lately I've begun to watch a little more of it and put myself in the role of the woman. Well, I always viewed it that way before but I felt guilty about it and tried to deny it. Now I let go and try to imagine myself as the women in the video and it turns me on. So I'm actually developing genuine female sexual desires. A few years late eh? But I guess that's to be expected now that I'm in the early stages of female puberty. Sexual emotions and feelings were bound to happen sooner or later, like I said, estrogen is a mind (and heart) altering drug. Becoming a woman involves a lot more complex things than just simply sprouting tits. Things in your head and your heart change too.
I guess that emotionally I'm about on par with a young girl just entering her puberty.
Her body is changing and so are her thoughts. She goes from hating boys to looking at boys.
Why would I not also do the same?

I now list my sexual orientation as "Yes! I am definitely sexually oriented!"
It's too bad that I couldn't have begun transition and HRT when I was a teen. I could have had a chance at being a normal woman that might have even looked halfway decent by now and would certainly have found happiness by now.

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Blu-Jay
(no login) Re: Even with Herbal treatment: it is possible July 27 2007, 4:15 PM


"New and Improved" I like that statement! That covers alot of things were going through.

Speaking of emotions! I went to another musical show last night. It was about the music of the sixties and early seventies.
The group performed a song by the 'Hollys'called HE AIN'T HEAVEN,HE'S MY BROTHER. Geez, I really had try to hold back the tears, but I couldn't. It was a good thing that the theater was dark,because that would have been a little embarassing. I went to see the show with two women, I sat in between the two.I heard the one crying while the song was playing.When the mid show break was on,She had said, That song makes her cry,she loves it so much.Not letting on that,That song has the same effect on me.I replied "Geez! you women and your emotions!" :-D
But I have to say that, there were several songs in the show that made my eyes all watery.
Yeah, estrogen can effect you sometimes in some pretty embarassing times and ways. Especialy if you are still trying to behave as a male out in public.
I also had kind of an unusual experience last night. At break time I had to go for a Pee.So I went to the mens washroom.There,standing in line waiting to use the urinal, I had this strange feeling of being out of place there. Weird huh? The way I still look,I wouldn't be able use the womens washroom either.It's a feeling of being in the middle, not belonging to one or the other! It's kind of scary how the E can effect your mind that way. :-/


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Morticia
(Login moonstruck61) Re: Even with Herbal treatment: it is possible July 27 2007, 6:12 PM


Yep.
That being in the middle part is rough. On the rare occasion that I leave the house, I make every effort to make sure that while I'm out I won't have to use a public restroom. Going into a mens restroom grosses me out and disgusts me but there's no way in hell I can use the women's restroom in my state.
So I just take care of it before I leave and I make sure I get things done quickly as possible.

As for emotions. Wow! Yeah....It's a whole new world for me.
For many years I turned off my emotions and feelings and was like unshakeable.
The only emotion I ever displayed for the past 17 years was anger.
Well, that's totally turned around now (except for my outburst yesterday)
Any little thing sets me off now.
For instance, if I see a woman tear up, I instantly tear up too.
One of my favorite shows is "Kathy Griffin: My life on the D-List". I just love her so much.
Well on a commercial for her show they show a clip of her where she is in Ireland to spread her father's ashes. As she's saying some words about her dad she breaks into tears. And so do I. Not boo-hoo sobbing but it's like instantly out of the blue I just tear up too right along with her. It's not just her though, any woman showing emotion does that to me. If they are sad, it makes me sad, if they are happy it makes me happy.
I don't have any control over it either, it just happens and I can't stop it from happening or stop it once it starts. If I was around some women in real life and one of them started crying about something, I would be busted and outed big time because I would be crying with her.

This emotional thing is not something I asked for or wanted or even expected. It was totally a surprise.
In a way though I enjoy my new found capacity for empathy and the ability to share emotions with another but it's going to get me in trouble sooner or later when I lose it in public someday.

Another thing is that I get frustrated when something I'm trying to do doesn't work right and sometimes it will make me cry. Yep. I was doing some yardwork the other day and the weedeater kept breaking every 2 minutes. I would have to stop and take it apart and try again. It kept breaking over and over and over.
I wanted to take it like a baseball bat and smash it against a tree but I didn't (smashing it was my old way to deal with it) so I just put it down, went in the house and cried for a few minutes in frustration.
Crying didn't fix it but I guess it saved me from smashing it.. It takes a LOT to make me angry and even then, my anger is nothing like it used to be.

Yep. It's a whole new world for me.. "I'm not the man I used to be." Hahaha!


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Morticia
(Login moonstruck61) Re: Even with Herbal treatment: it is possible July 27 2007, 6:50 PM


Oh yeah, I almost forgot.
Check my "stash" for a video called "Toilet Training Law and Order FSTV - Free Speech TV "
It's a video talking about your legal rights (we have none as TS/TG) concerning public restrooms.
It's pretty good info and you'll be glad you took the time to DL and watch it.



Davilee
(Login Davi-lee) Re: Even with Herbal treatment: it is possible July 29 2007, 6:47 AM


Yes,the ideal for society would be everybody is hermaphroditic.
We were talking about this on another site.
Anyway,my point related to what you were discussing is,that it would make a better world if everybody had deep feeling emotions.
Everybody could relate with each other more thoroughly and the world would be a lot more mellow and spiritually constructive for everybody.
I guess,the alternative to turning everybody androgynous,is to give men more estrogen to get their brain rewired for emotional processes.HA!
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