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Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples
June 28 2007 at 9:05 PM Manyquestions (Login ManyQuestions)
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Here is why I am desperately seeing to have womanly nipples.
At first I thought to try to change my male breasts into small female breasts.
Small enough so they would not show. I would know I have them, but I didn't want to go public. However, three problems arose:
1. This is really difficult to do. I tried for a couple of months taking herbs, but got nowhere.
2. It is only worth doing if at the same time I could remove all hair from my chest - otherwise it would look gross. But this would be a continuing pain and major nuisance.
3. I don't want to risk seriously interfering with my libido or erections.
So I decided instead to try to make only my nipples more womanly. I figured this would give me much of what I want: I would have more sexually sensitive nipples and also I would have the knowledge that they were there. I could wear a heavy shirt or sweater and no one would look at me like I was weird, or know that I was a man with a woman's nipples on his chest.
So I ordered "Double Strength Nipple Development Cream" from the Transformation web site. Very expensive, a 3 month supply. They also recommended Anti-Androgen Capsules, female hormone precurser pills. But I didn't order them because I was afraid they would interfere with my libido/erections.
I used the cream for 2-3 months before it ran out. I used it as directed, faithfully. During this time my areola increased from roughly 22 mm in diameter to 30 mm in diameter - they almost doubled in area! And the nipples got larger too. Which was great. But my nipples got slightly less sensitive, not more sensitive. Very disappointing. They looked somewhat more girlish, but did not feel more sexually sensitive.
The cream ran out a week ago. My areola are back to 22 mm, and the nipples are back to their old sizes as well. But at least the sensitivity has returned.
I think the problem probably came from the male hormones in my body overrding the topical effects of the cream. In other words, without taking something that will affect my entire body (and thus endanger my libido/erections) I probably am on an impossible quest.
I am ready to give up. Unless anyone has any suggestions?
Thanks for listening,
Manyquestions
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Many me
(Login moonstruck61) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples June 28 2007, 11:10 PM
Snake bite kit. $3 at Walmart in the sporting goods section, camping supplies.
Careful though, you'll end up with monster nipples you can not hide without duct taping them down.
Don't worry about herbs too much. I take huge doses of anti-androgens and a pretty heavy dose of female hormones and I can tell you that orgasms are insane. Compared to what they were before, there is no comparison. It's like comparing a pine tree to chocolate pudding. There is no comparison. Period.
Orgasms are so incredible they scare me. I don't make a point of wanking off but every 3-4 days those to round things fill up, the swell to twice normal size and HURT badly. It gets so painful that I can't even walk. It's at that point that I know I have to relieve myself of this build up.
Before, orgasms lasted 1-2 seconds and just a little stuff dribbled out. Far, far from impressive and not really even worth the effort. Now, however, orgasms last as long as 30 seconds, I come close to passing out they are so extreme and it seems like gallons gush out. I could put a porn star to shame. Why? I have no idea. But I love it! Of course I would rather my plumbing was not as it is but I have it this way for now so I have to accept that. From what I've heard from TS girls that have had SRS, it's WAY better after surgery. Well, I think this is a taste of what's to come and I like it a whole lot. Sure, it will be "different" but these intense and extended orgasms are like nothing else on earth. I couldn't even imagine such a thing before. I'm sure part of it is because of the emotional shifts I've had since being on hormones but I assure you, there certainly is something physical going on too. Oh, and there's a pretty good chance I'm "shooting blanks" as they say. But that doesn't matter to me anymore.
I wouldn't trade the orgasms I get now for anything. I would call these side effects of these hormones to be a MAJOR BONUS.
Of course it may just be a weird fluke and I'm the only one that's had this happen. It may very well affect others differently.
As far as I'm concerned, this whole experience has been positive for me in every respect.
I'm feminizing nicely (but slowly) and when I have to relieve myself, it's incredibly pleasant.
Couldn't get much better than this.
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(Login ManyQuestions) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples June 29 2007, 2:37 AM
I don't understand - I thought that if a genetic man took a significant amount of female hormones he would find it difficult to have an erection. Yet you say that you have regular orgasms (of incredible power, yet!). I presume from your posting that you can have an erection/orgasm on a regular basis! Wow!
Is this common?
You have orgasms as powerful as only a woman's orgasms can be - are your nipples much more sensitive than when you were a regular guy as well? If so, wow!
I realize that suction from a snakebite kit can increase the size of nipples. Does it also increase their sensitivity?
Thanks,
Manyquestions
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Morticia
(Login moonstruck61) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples June 29 2007, 3:23 AM
Well, as for having erections, well, they don't just happen. I'm not 16 anymore ya know.
I don't get physically horny at all anymore. When I was younger, I got "dog horny" and just went through the motions.
Now, the horniness is happening in my head and not in my crotch. And it's far, far more powerful.
"Dog horny" is just a mechanical event without emotion at all.
I now get what I call "emotionally horny". It's a very deep and base feeling. It's naughty and catty and nasty.
It just takes me over and emotionally I am swept into a tornado of emotions that spiral up to near orgasm.
Not quite, but just short of orgasm. It's purely emotional and there is no erection of any sort but despite that, my whole
body and "soul" is just alive with this very naughty, catty feeling. I can't really describe it any other way.
I honestly think that if I can learn to stop resisting that I may be able to actually have an orgasm from this.
But when this thing hits me, and it does without warning, it takes a minute, maybe two minutes to spin me up to the edge but for some reason, something in me resists and tries to quell these emotions and I basically shut down, or come down from the edge without getting there.
Never in my life have I ever experienced anything like it, I've never even heard of such a thing before.
But when I consider everything that has been happening to me this year, the only conclusion I can come to is that it's the hormones. What other thing could it be? I know the hormones have put me on an emotional roller coaster, I have had bouts of deep depression, sometimes bordering on suicidal thoughts, lots of crying, and everything in between. Maybe my EM's are the top of the roller coaster ride. I don't know. I know that the hormones HAVE beyond any shadow of a doubt brought a lot of emotional changes to me and a lot of physical changes too. All for the better. If I had it to do over, I would do it all over again without hesitation. No regrets. Well, one regret. That I didn't start this 30 years ago..
As for nipples, well, I had to back off on that. It was making them so freaking big that I was worried that someone would notice them and say something. I mean, freakishly big. And sensitive? When my shirt rubbed across them it would send me through the roof, sitting with my shirt off was even too much because the fan blowing on them would ignite my rockets. If you have a wife/girlfriend/SO, you're in for a treat. Put the suction cups on them for about an hour then take them off and have your wife/etc. go to town on them. You won't be able to handle it. And I assure you one thing, you'll treat a woman's nipples a lot gentler in the future after you've done this a few times. It gives you a new view and appreciation for female anatomy.
Actually I am thinking that I'm going to resume the nipple thing so that they too will hopefully attain "normal" size for female breasts. Why not? I'm growing a pair and transitioning fully to female anyway so I might as well.
Six months ago I was telling myself that I wasn't going to go this far, that I would just be happy to be a little female.
Hahaha!! Right. It's all or nothing. But I don't care anymore. The more I change, the better I like it. I'm actually starting to not hate my body so much. It sure is nice to wake up in the morning swing my legs out of bed, look down, see & feel female legs.
It just feel and looks right. Nothing but benefits. Nothing but benefits. No regrets.
Be careful about tiptoeing down the female path. It will sweep you up and carry you away and you won't want to go back.
It's nice. Really.
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Morticia
(Login moonstruck61) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples June 29 2007, 5:31 AM
Oh, I just realized something.
Those little emotional things that I get, have nothing at all to do with the every few days thing where I have to relieve the pains.
There's no connection between the two at all. While I do feel very sexually "hot and bothered" during those episodes, I have not ever felt the urge to actually do relieve myself then.
And as to when I do actually have to relieve myself, that's a very different but highly emotional thing too.
Seriously, I really reach the point that I think I can't take it anymore and that I'm going to pass out if the orgasm doesn't end soon.
It goes on and on and on and on.. And even after it's over, baby, it ain't over. There's like what I would call aftershocks that for 3-4 minutes, maybe 20-30 of them in all. The aftershocks aren not orgasms but my whole body just convulses just as if they were.
I've pulled muscles in my back, chest, legs, etc. from the tensing up. All my muscles just lock up. Ever seen someone get shocked with those heart attack paddles? That's what it's like but it last for much longer.
I've asked around to see if any other TS girls have had or heard of anything like this but no replies.
I guess it's too far out there and it may just be me only that this has happened to.
It flies in the face of everything I've read, it's the exact opposite of what they tell you will happen when you take female hormones.
So how or why it's happening, I couldn't guess. While I think that most of it is in my head, some of it has to be something else.
Maybe because of the massive amounts of Saw Palmetto I'm taking has made my prostate extremely healthy. I don't know.
But whatever it is, I'm not complaining. Like I said, I don't make it a habit to wank off, I really don't care too much about that anymore but the time comes every few days when I have no choice in the matter, I have to or I am sure something will rupture and I'll end up in the emergency room with ruptured plumbing. The most I can go before it starts to hurt is about two days.
They go from walnuts to very large eggs, quadrupling in size. And the pain is BAD. Very, very bad. It's like getting kicked but it just hurts worse and worse as time goes on.
Maybe as time goes on this will go away. I don't know. It won't bother me if it doesn't..
And if it's this good (or better) after SRS, I can't wait!
I should have put this all in the above post to begin with but it seems we can't edit our posts.. Oh well.
Anyway, from what I've read, you can go a little ways down this path and back out before you reach the point of no return without causing yourself any real concern but how do you know when to stop? I guess the only way is to have a hormone test at the doctors. Me? I'm not stopping. This is my destiny and I'm enjoying it..
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(Login ManyQuestions) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples June 29 2007, 1:24 PM
Thanks very much.
If anyone else has any experiences/advice, this too would be very much appreciated.
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twinklepose
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples June 30 2007, 11:35 AM
Hi Many Questions.
To make my nipples larger, I used Niplette from Avent. It's intended for correcting inverted nipples in breastfeeding women but works just as well for us chaps who want bigger nipples!
I think I got mine off eBay and it was pretty cheap. It feels really intense when your nipples are being sucked so hard by it - but don't suck too hard, or you'll get blisters.
Good luck!
Twink x
PS If anyone has any ideas on how to increase areola size, I personally would LOVE to hear it!!!
PPS Just done a throughly good massage with progesterone cream and then wild yam cream and my boobs are looking more full than they have for months! Let's hope it's a sign of things to come.
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SENIOR MEMBER Larger Nipples June 30 2007, 6:30 PM
Like you I have used the Niplette from Avent. It works quite well on the Nipples, making them more erect and fuller. It also makes them more sensitive to touch and temperature. However the small size of the Niplette cup prevents the nipples from becoming very long.
It does nothing for the Areolas so if any one has any ideas on how to make them larger please let us know.
I have looked for the snake bite kits in the UK without success.
Dreamer
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Fennel Fairy
(no login) Erm... June 30 2007, 7:37 PM
Perhaps the reason why they don't sell snakebite kits in the UK is because there aren't many deadly snakes...
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twinklepose
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples July 1 2007, 10:22 AM
Correction - there aren't ANY!!! Get bitten by a grass snake or an adder (or the rare smooth snake if you're very un/lucky to see one) and it won't kill ya!
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(no login) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples July 3 2007, 4:04 PM
Yes,the snake bite kit is one of the best you can get. I've read about it on the Transfemme/Bountifulbreast web site. They work very well. I don't have the snake bite kit but I have something simular that I bought at our local sex shop. It's also sort of a suction device and seems to work well.
You might want to try a sex shop that sells sex toys. They most likely would carry something like that. With suction devices you need to be careful, the nipples can get quite large and over doing it or using it to much can be quite painful and may even cause some damage.
Twink, Here in the great white north we also don't have many deadly snakes. We do have some Rattle snakes and they're under protection. They're not as lethal as the ones in the states, but they can make you feel very sick and even kill people with a weaker imune system Like Elderly, very young kids and so on.
Eitherway, I would'nt want to get bit by one.
Blu-Jay :-)
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jenny
(no login) re.desperately seeking to have womanly nipples July 5 2007, 3:44 AM
hi, excuse me for entering this thread-i'm a woman and not a man. last year (august) i tried to enlarge my nipples using a snake-bite kit; so i'm reading what you guys are saying with interest. i didn't use it much-only a bit once a day for a week and then one day i left it on for 3/4 hour. (i used suction with it too on my nipples-a stupid thing) anyhow, i am amazed to see you all have increased sensitivity, because after only that one session, i have lost all sensitivity and it's been nearly a year now-hasn't returned. i'm horribly depressed about this-can't get over it-and furthermore- i no longer orgasm... this is the worst blow of my entire life...i used to have wonderful orgasms.
anyhow, i am puzzled how i could have lost everything but you guys have gained so much sensitivity? maybe you're tougher to begin with, whereas i am very fragile and weak in that area? the only solution i can find to the mystery is that i cut off the blood supply and destroyed the nerves to that area? any thoughts? sorry, i was amazed to find this thread and couldn't resist asking...
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stefanie
(Login stefanie_ss) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples July 5 2007, 4:33 AM
jenny,
i can see that there may be a possibility of losing sensitivity in your nipples but... to totally not be able to orgasm? there may be other problems, issues or something.
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Morticia
(Login moonstruck61) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples July 5 2007, 4:45 AM
Jenny,
I'm terribly sorry that you had a bad experience with this. I can't imagine what could have caused the problem you experienced.
I can say though that for me, it works very well. The sensitivity of my nipples is 100's of times greater than ever before.
It's really made them TOO sensitive. Simple, normal activities that cause my shirt to pull across my nipples really "lights em up" so to speak. If after using something to pull a suction on them I touch them lightly with my fingers, it is really hard to handle. Just a litle touch causes me to convulse. I'm sure that if I wanted to take the time to learn to do it, I am certain that I could bring myself to orgasm strictly through playing with my nipples and no other physical contact with any other part of my body. It's THAT good.
Of course being transsexual, I'm of a different mindset than most folks which may have something to do with it.
I already have other unusual sexual side effects (good ones!) and this too falls right in like with my other experiences.
One thing I found that works very well to draw a suction on my nipples are these little black rubber things that come with those blue above ground swimming pools. It looks like a little Mexican sombrero sort of. It's used to block the water lines on the swimming pool while you change out the filter. It's just the right size and shape to do the job. I wore out a pair of snake bite thingies already when I discovered these things. They come with a pool when you buy one or you can order replacements in case you lose or break them. They are also more durable than the snake bite thingies so they have lasted much longer.
When I put them on, I lick them so they will seal better, squeeze them hard, place them over my nipple and let go.
They will pop back to their normal shape and draw a *strong* vacuum which will suck your nipple up into the little thingie.
It hurts a little at first then you forget about it. I go about the house and do stuff, I don't even think about it much.
I note when I put them on and take them off an hour later. After an hour, it's pulled my nipples waaaay out, they look very weird right at first but within about 5-10 minutes they pretty much return to normal. Another thing that happens is the vacuum pulls fluid right through the skin of my nipples. I guess it's water, I don't know, it's clear and doesn't have any taste.
Now, I just did this a few minutes ago, I put the little thingies on my nipples and left them on for a full hour.
Here's some pictures. Don't look if you don't want to see tranny titties. And no, I don't have pretty, perfect skin.
I have a serious hair problem that I am working to eliminate. But as a consequence of constant epilation, I end up with ingrown hairs and skin irritations. So my skin isn't all pretty yet. I will have to have laser therapy to rid myself of it and only then will I ever be able to have soft, pretty skin. So don't get all grossed out. One step at a time..
So, here you go, tranny tits during and after nipple modification.
The last picture shows a close up of the fluid that the cups sucked through my skin.
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stefanie
(Login stefanie_ss) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples July 5 2007, 4:48 AM
its funny that "we" all have a picture in our minds of what we want our breasts to look like. we can see our nipples, the size and shape of our areolas and the curve and fullness of our breasts. we take these products in hopes of achieving our dreams. but...what is normal?
http://www.007b.com/breast_gallery.php
just a question that makes you go hmmmmmmmmm.
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Morticia
(Login moonstruck61) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples July 5 2007, 5:19 AM
I would be *THRILLED* to have a pair like the girl in the third column, second row down.
That would be *nice* and I would be *happy* beyond words.
The only thing that could possibly be better would be to have a luscious, scrumptious, perfect pair such as our beloved Fennel. ;-)
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Fennel Fairy
(no login) Morticia... July 5 2007, 6:49 AM
You're a real sweety! :-)
My nipples changed a lot after nursing. After breastfeeding for a total of 22 months, they are permanently erect. Always. And they are so sensitive that I can have orgasms if they are stimulated. They are not enormous by any means but I am happy with them.
I do believe that it is possible to cut off the circulation to the nips like Jenny Described and end up with nerve damage. That must have been devastating to say the least. And sure, there is a nerve connection between nips and vagina because I get vaginal orgasms from nipple stimulation. However, a total absense of orgasms are probably due to something else and not the nipple issue.
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Moonstruck
(Login moonstruck61) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples July 7 2007, 12:25 AM
I just thought of something.
For those of us whose areola will very likely never, ever grow and become "normal" looking, I just thought of a very simple solution.
Tattoo them on. This thought just came to me out of the blue, so I looked it up. It seems this is a pretty common procedure.
http://www.permanent-makeup.ws/permanent...ration.htm
http://clusty.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&v%3Asources=webplus&query=tattoo+areola
It certainly can't cost very much and shouldn't take very long. It's got to be easy and basic to do.
I would think though that you would do better to see a specialist in this because they would likely
have more gentle equipment than the tattoo gun down at the "Dragon Inn" tattoo parlor.
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Davilee
(Login Davi-lee) OH,someone else has that too.... July 20 2007, 11:32 AM
Hey Moonstruck,Wow,it makes me feel better to know that someone else has got that great sideeffect.HAAAAAAHAHA!It was so funny reading what you wrote.
When I started my program I thought I was going to lose what libido I did have and definitely lose my erection ability.Thats what some places said.
Well,it sure didnt happen that way,Im actually more hornier than Ive been in a long time,I get hard constantly,it gets to be a nuisance in public.
I have sensitive nipples from enlarging them with rubber caps,I never have lost sensitivity over the 2-3 years Ive been doing that.So,that also helps the turn-on factor.
Anyway,It wasnt what I expected.Its a pleasant surprise,indeed.
And like you said,I find my orgasms are getting stronger,as I go along.
How long did it take you to get like that?
I was just thinking yesterday what you said in your post up top,Im starting to actually avoid having an orgasm for several days because the last ones I had were so strong,I felt contractions way up inside of my pelvis,and throughout my perineum and anus.I felt like I pulled something loose.
But,I think that I have something else going on in my pelvis,that is not a male organ,I think that I have some female structures from being intersexed.
Externally I have a shallow vulva formation across my scrotum and down into my perineum.Thats why I think that I may have something else internally.
Its never caused me a problem,until now that Ive been increasing my estrogens.
Oh yes,Ive been trying to increase the width of my areolas also.
They are bigger around but they are conical now,and when they get hard the entire areola hardens and narrows and sticks out more.
I have been hoping that the right application of hormones will make my areolas get wider.They are growing wider,but it has been slow so far.
I keep reminding myself that I havent been at this very long,so I should be patient.
What all are you taking,so that I can figure out where our plans are analogous and so figure out which supplements are doing this for us?
Thanx,sorry that was so long.^_^
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Alien Sheep
(Login ManyQuestions) Nipples and Suction -- -- Seeking Information July 21 2007, 12:40 AM
I tried enlarging my nipples using suction, and it works so far. Does it work long term? If I do it repeatedly, say every day for months, will my nipples be larger permanently (or semi-permanently)? I would love to have large, sensitive and erect nipples always, not just after I have been wearing the suction devices.
Could some of you please elaborate on the long term effects of the nipple suction devices? How large did your nipples get from suction alone (not from hormones), how sensitive, how erect, for how long? Thank you very much.
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Alien Sheep
(Login ManyQuestions) A Clarification July 21 2007, 1:02 AM
Looking back, my last posting probably was not clear. Let me try again.
While I am using the suction devices my tiny nipples grow wonderfully, but after I remove the suction they rapidly shrink down to their puny man size. What I would like to know is -- if I use the suction devices a lot - such as an hour a day for months - but with no hormones, will my nipples become permanently or semi-permanently larger? I realize they will never become as glorious as female nipples, but could I end up with something better than "normal" tiny un-erect man nipples?
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Davilee
(Login Davi-lee) As far as my own "hobby"..... July 21 2007, 1:05 AM
Hi! Well,for me,Ive been doing the nipple thang for a long time.
I made my own caps/tubes because,I didnt know of that one nipple cup place then.
I started out small,1/4" and not even 1/8"long.Very shallow.
Now they're almost 1/2"wide and 3/8" long all the time.
When I pump them now,they get 3/8" wide(thats as wide as my tubes)and 1/2" long for quite awhile.The width is 3/8 for a bit then widens out after they relax a bit.
My problem is that I got greedy and vacked my entire areola and all a lot and I think that made them the way they are now.They are wider than when I started BUT when they get erect the whole areola and nipple engorge together and make one hard conical form.They look like one big nipple.HA!
But OH MY! do they feel good!
I have really been hard on my nips,Ive "blown them out"(blistered),countless times.BUT,Ive not lost sensitivity,they just get moreso.
Its about nerve growth,I believe.
I take B-Complex liquid drops.It is great for building nerve tissues and I take loads of Vit C.,which also is great for nerve tissue rebuilding.
Excuse me if I didnt answer something,I didnt have your note to see.
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Davilee
(Login Davi-lee) Updated for Many???.... July 21 2007, 1:30 AM
Oh,uhm....yes you will get permanent results if you have them on for long enough periods.
I would leave my original caps on constantly.Id take them off to rest for a few hours,everyday.
How I started was I went to a hardware store and looked for "bolt end protectors",they are color coded rubber caps.
The biggest is 3/8"x1/2" they are usually grey.
You may have to look at the sizes stepped down from the grey,to see if one of those would be more appropriate.
Id start out with a cap that is more compact and closer to your beginning size.Because,it is just like any other vacking on body parts, its better on your nips,because there is not so much extra space.
Use that aloe vera gel sold for sunburn, as a lube for the caps.Its clear.
You will begin to see perm. growth after awhile.
Just be careful at first,they are sensitive flesh and the caps will pull lymph right into them.
Heres what i do,I put them on full pressure for a bit and then take them off and put them back on with less pressure,as they have swelled from the initial application.
**Something interesting Ive noticed since being on "the program",I can vac my nipples real hard for longer periods and they dont blister.And they stretch longer in the tube,like almost 3/4"!OMG!HA!
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jenny
(no login) question July 22 2007, 9:32 PM
hi -this is for davi lee, or anyone else who can help. can you please tell me more about these b complex liquid drops you are taking?
i am frantic to find something which will restore the nerves i've damaged in my nipple area. i'm trying everything i can think of. i am taking b vitamin complex, vitamin c, evening primrose oil, etc. but nothing seems to make any difference. so far my nipples and the rest of my breasts feel identical, i.e. when i touch my nipples it's like i'm touching any other part of my body. frightening. after nearly a year i'm still not used to this and cry all day long. i'm afraid to get close to a man for fear i won't be able to feel any pleasure and will therefore let him down. this was never the case before, although i was never able to have a much-longed for relationship with a man. i am a total wreck. it seems the nerves which caused nipples to become hard are damaged too, for this no longer happens. does anyone know of anything else i could do? i want to cling to hope somehow. i'm 38 now and can't fathom living the rest of my life like this-unable to orgasm or feel any sort of sensation in my once incredibly sensitive nipples.
should i be massaging? would massage help?
thanks so much.
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Davilee
(Login Davi-lee) For Jenny... July 23 2007, 8:48 AM
Ohhhh.....you make me weepy,I really feel for you.
Sorry I didnt get back to you yet.
The B-complex sublingual is taken orally.Because that is the only way to absorb these vitamins properly.
The digestive system doesnt absorb them very well.
the liquid is held under the tongue and it is absorbed into the bloodstream.
I get mine at Walmart pharmacy,its only 2-3$You should be able to find it anywhere.
I have an idea for you,since it is absorbed through skin,try applying it directly to your nipples and areolas.It is a slightly thick liquid and has some sweetener in it,it would stick well to nipples and areolas.
Id try a few drips on them and let it soak for awhile and let it dry up on them.So,then it is on there and absorbing for a long time.
Are you taking enough vitamin C?I take the crystaline c powder,which is 5000mg per teasp.The more the better with C.
My friend has found another C product like Ester C,but better.I cant think of the name.
Ester C is supposed to be very easily absorbed.
You know,I found some info on Wikipedia about Prolactin.
It said that it stimulates proliferation of oligogendrocyte precursor cells,they differentiate into the cells responsible for the formation of myelin coatings on axons in the central nervous system.
Do you still massage your nipples and areolas?I dont know if producing prolactin will help rebuild your nerves in your nipples very quickly.
What massage do you do now?
Stimulating prolactin cant hurt.The signals are sent even if you dont feel them very strongly.
Heres another idea. Get some Estrogen gel or cream and start working it into your nipples and areolas for awhile.Estrogen is supposed to be responsible for development of those parts.
Have you tried that already?
I have some more ideas but I need to do some checking on some herbs for you.
I will get back to you and I will post it on here,OK?
I know Jenny,how horrible it must be too loose that facet of sensations.
I have had that same lack of feeling at times.Ive really been hard on my parts,trying to get them bigger.Ive had times when I thought mine wouldnt recover also.
How long has it been since you had that initial loss of sensations?
I treasure my nipple sensations very much,and I understand the complexity of the overall linking of nerve stimulations between breasts and belly and sexual organs, inside and out, and even down the legs and arms.
When you loose the one key to linking pleasure with the other points,there really is an "empty" spot in the overall amount of pleasure.
I think that you will recover,in time.
Usually,unless nerves are severed they will come back.
You know,I thought that your case was uncommon,because I messed my nipples and areolas up so much and I still have a lot of sensation.
Of course,Ive increased the size of mine by quite alot,and the more flesh you can grow the more nerves you will build.
Thats just my theory that I go by. Seems to work.
Bye
My working on them is the only reason I do have a lot of sensations
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jenny
(no login) thanks davi lee July 25 2007, 9:07 PM
many thanks for all the time you took to respond to my question. so many good ideas! thanks also for your encouragement. at the moment, my world appears very dark-it's now been 11 months and there is no improvement at all. i am praying for a miracle. there is almost no sensation there whatsoever. i feel totally asexual after having been extremely alive all my life. i went to a homeopathic doctor this week and she gave me hypernicum (st. john's wort) which is supposed to help the nerves regenerate. i just hope mine aren't so totally destroyed there is no hope. i'm going to try to round up some funds so i can afford a long series of acupuncture treatments. i don't know. i long for hope.
thanks again! good luck to you!
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(Login Davi-lee) Some more suggestions.... July 26 2007, 6:18 AM
Thanks Jenny.
yes,trying to find your energy blockage is a good thing also.
Nerves operate by chemicals and bioelectricity after all.
I have some other things that may help.
I read that lechithin either soy or egg,helps to rebuild nerve tissues
Seseme oil also is supposed to be good.
I read on hormone info.about progesterone, that it is used by the body to rebuild the myelin sheathes on nerve tissues.
Hope that some of these may help you.
I'll keep looking.
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(Login ManyQuestions) Jenny's Nipple and orgasm problems July 29 2007, 12:41 AM
hi, excuse me for entering this thread-i'm a woman and not a man. last year (august) i tried to enlarge my nipples using a snake-bite kit; so i'm reading what you guys are saying with interest. i didn't use it much-only a bit once a day for a week and then one day i left it on for 3/4 hour. (i used suction with it too on my nipples-a stupid thing) anyhow, i am amazed to see you all have increased sensitivity, because after only that one session, i have lost all sensitivity and it's been nearly a year now-hasn't returned. i'm horribly depressed about this-can't get over it-and furthermore- i no longer orgasm... this is the worst blow of my entire life...i used to have wonderful orgasms.
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Jenny - I am not a Doctor. Having admitted this, I cannot believe that one nipple enhancement session could have both desentisized your nipples and taken away your ability to have an orgasm. If it had only desensitized your nipples I would have found that hard to believe, but possible. But taking away your ability to have orgasms seems impossible to me.
Something else must be going on. Maybe you unconsciously feel guilty about trying to make your nipples more sensitive? If you were raised in a very religious home, you might feel that you were doing something wrong, and are punishing yourself for trying to make yourself more sexy, by making yourself less sexy. Or maybe something else happened at the same time - you had a bad love affair and on an unconscious level you are trying to prevent yourself from having your heat broken again by "de-sexing" yourself so you won't date any more? I'm not saying that I have the answer. But I am saying that I don't believe that one nipple suction session could prevent you from having orgasms.
Manyqustions
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Blu-Jay
(no login) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples July 29 2007, 4:59 AM
Good point! Many Questions. I also believe that the problem has nothing to do with nipple enlargement. I think that maybe she needs a new lover or she needs something more to satisfy her sexually. Maybe she needs a bit of KINK or to live out some of her fantasys but I don't believe it's from the snake bite kit.
I also recomend she see her doctor and a sex therapist.
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(Login Davi-lee) Dont jump to conclusions... July 29 2007, 6:28 AM
Sure,there could be a mental block of some sort but it probably not from what you are mentioning.
She has had a lot of problems healthwise,did you read her story over on the other side?
She has had some difficulties with infections and some atypical growth and shrinkage results.
She sounds genuinely honest about getting all her normal function back.
i study a little on Ayurveda traditional Indian healing system,which is 4000+ yr old holistic health system that combines spirituality,science,pychology.
There are three main constitutions of human body types and also sharing of aspects of the others.
There is Vata:Air/Space(Ether),Pitta:Fire/Water,Kapha:Water/Earth.
Vata people have physical tendencies for these following things for Vata governs these.
Aspects of breathing, Aspects of the eyes, Movements in the muscles and tissues, Pulsations of the heart, All contraction and expansion aspects of the body, Movements and signals of the nerve cells,Aspects of digestion,Aspects of elimination/urine/menstruation/birthing.
There is a lot to this that I just cant write all of it.
Jenny,I would be interested in knowing what you are like physically and other characteristics,to see which form you are most like.
Vatas tend to be slender and rangy,Either very tall,taller than the average height of family,OR very short,a thin body frame,narrow shoulders or hips,Arms and legs may be either unusually long or unusually short,may have light small bones with prominent or protruding joints that tend to make cracking or popping sounds,may have deviated septum,may have leg problems.
Are high energy people that have problems with storing energy in the body,Vata tends to make them dry skinned and a tendency to leanness,they may find it difficult or impossible to gain weight,some gain and lose weight erratically.Have poor circulation generally.
The vata people need stimulating,nourishing foods and herbs.
Mentally Vata governs,Flexibility,Ability to communicate and creative resources. Power and movement coordination, adaptibility, inspiration, spiritual aspiration.
Negative Vata manifests as nervousness, fear, anxiety,and insecurities.
In the body Vata is the movement of the nervous system.
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Blu-Jay
(no login) NO CONCLUSIONS HERE, JUST POSSIBLE ANSWERS July 29 2007, 8:25 AM
Yes! health could very well be the reason for her problem. That's why I recomended she see a doctor and a sex Therapist! Now ! Most of us don't follow people around this whole Forum! So, No I geuss we didn't read her post on the main board. We or I replied to what she had posted on 'THIS' forum!!
Now, what she has clearly stated was that she thinks that lost lost her ability to "peak" because she had done the nipple enlargement.
We/I don't believe that it could of come from that! There must have been another reason for her problem. So without knowing about her health problems,we listed some very likely possibilities that could cause someone not to Orgasm. These possibilities not uncommen ones.
Believe Me! Sex therapists deal with these kind of problems all the time.
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Blu-Jay
(no login) This Is The 3rd Time I Read Her Posts ! July 29 2007, 8:45 AM
I just read through her posts on THIS forum "again" and she doesn't mention anything about her Med problems. She speaks of fear of not being able to satisfy a man! and other stuff like that. READ THEM!
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(Login Davi-lee) I beleive I just heard an ass.... July 30 2007, 11:14 AM
NOW whos being an ass!
Geezus! What the F**K! is your problem.
Im going to be plain and simple here.
What did I say to YOU with large amounts of exclamation points over and over and over!!!!
I didnt wack you the other day like I wanted to,but now IM F*ING Mad!
She has been treated like crap over there,...and now here.
Thats what Im PO'd about! Whay are you yelling at me for something that you didnt go investigate yourself! Being ignorant of the whole situation,leads you to yell BS at me?!?! GREAT LOGIC!!....OH YEAH... NO LOGIC! Just irrationality.
SHE explains everything in the threads over there,of course she DIDNT say every little bit of info here,she was addressing ME!!!!I commented over there and she knew I knew, all about what was going on.
She was demeaned over there by idjits,who were so UNknowledgeable about nervous disorders(as here)....BLAHHHHHHHH! Who the F cares if you have never heard of it in your small world of experience....do you study disorders of nervous systems and related biology???
Why do people think that when something rare comes up IT MUST BE A JOKE OR A LIE....
She is a really hurting person and has a real problem,basically saying hey you have a mental problem is not very nice...now is it??
I just got done on Tribe dealing with an F**King ASS that was real nice then attacked me for my stand supporting transgender people and my own personal feelings on myself.....They said there are no gender problems with people....OH REALLY!! YOU F**ING ASS,you get born with a body thats screwed up and your mental gender screwed up and I want to see what you think then.
THIS F**ing crap here has just sent me to the edge right now...Ive got to see this irrational BS over some innocent comments in defense of Jenny.
Think before you F**ing type a damn word,BJ, do you even think of how it made her feel??? and I thought i overreacted the other day.
AAAAAAAAUUUUUGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!! Im out of here for a while,by Stefanie.
Im going to go drive my car into a building.
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Blu-Jay
(no login) Davi, Davi,Davi ! July 30 2007, 5:21 PM
I suggest you read over all our posts again,but read the text as it is,not between the lines.
Nobody suggested anybody was an *ss other than 'you' on your post.
Nobody suggested anybody was lying other than 'you' on your post.
Nobody suggested that any of this was a Joke other than 'you' on your post.
Now, Since you are the only one that has attacked or responed to anyone in a rude, aggressive manner I would say that you owe everyone on THIS forum an apology for your behavior. So far in your short time here, you have responded to Morticia and Fennel in an aggressive manner over their oppinion about lips.You've just done the same to Manyquestions and myself for expressing ligitimate oppinions about a problem someone has posted. These oppinions were in line with what everyone else had posted about this subject.
Nobody ever questioned your knowledge about things, But you attacked ours or mine.
First of all you don't know me,what I know,what I do for a living or any thing about the world I live in. So you can stick that comment up yours. All I'll tell you is Ive been around for a while. I will tell you that I'll take scientific fact before magical potions and notions!
If you want to talk and try help people on a personal level, don't do it on a Public Forum.
As I can remember, she in her original post,never mentioned that she only wanted Davi to answer. In her second one, she mentioned "Davi" then followed with " or anyone else who can help"
Normally, I'm very easy to get along with and don't criticize somebody elses oppinions..But juding you by your last post lets me believe that your not an adult, you're just a young boy that wants to be in the forefront and thinks they have all the answers. Geez! Davi, grow up and read the posts for what they say and not for things you just pull out of the air! Flying off the handle at people the post things you don't understand, tells me that,you should look at your own nerves before you try to heal someone elses. Now! Davi, I liked you. But if you want to be like this, then I can tell you that you've met an adversary that you can't keep up to.
Blu-Jay
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(no login) please , guys... July 30 2007, 5:51 PM
hi it's me... feeling simply awful to have caused a row. please don't get in a fight over me. you can't imagine how badly that makes me feel. i'm a really gentle person and hate enmity.
firstly-i am deeply grateful for everyone's input. you are all super people, and have helped me a lot. i will say nearly everyone of you is correct. it simply amazes me.
davi-your discription of me is 100% correct-i simply marvel. i am very slim and delicate with long arms and legs. have always been ultra sensative to everything. have mvp (mitral valve prolapse), which causes an even greater, almost unbearable sensitivity at times. uber sensitive to noises, stress, etc.
and yes, many questions, i was raised in a very strict home. and you are correct about the lover business. i never had a lover before and finally met some guy online. anyhow, it turned out rather badly; we ended up talking dirty to one another and this was a first for me and he made some suggestions to me about nipple play etc (excuse me for being so graphic), and i, being always highly sexual was really turned on by this and thought i would make my nipples even better (i.e. bigger for him). thus i ended up in this situation. after i had my unfortunate incident i became almost deranged with horror because my nipples had become numb and for me my orgasms always felt like wonderful electric full body currents running between my genitals and nipples. now, suddenly the nipple area was totally numb and so no signals seemed to be reaching them, thus deadening the orgasmic effect. when i do orgasm it is like my body is desperately trying to accomplish this but instead of delightful feelings in the nipples-hardening etc. there is only a dull, unpleasant pain. also, the nipples no longer get hard from arousal.
this is really upsetting for me. now (incidentally) i have just met a wonderful man whom i think would make a great lover. but i am terrified what he will think as my nipples seem weird, mushy and don't harden. also i can't get aroused like before, because there is no feeling in the nipples. i wake up unable to even feel anything in the breast area - and have panicky moments all morning until noon- not sure who i am anymore-don't feel like a woman etc. because i can't feel any sensation in that area. it's really frightening. in addition i know i am not orgasming anymore, because my face and whole body used to be flushed when i awoke, now it isn't. also i feel very poorly as a result.
alas, i am not making this all up. i never had any problems of this nature before.
excuse all the silly graphic discriptions. thanks everyone for listening. please do not argue and fight over this. you are all great. forgive me for causing turmoil. davi, i thank you for your wisdom and attention too.
i have been seeing a sex therapist for a year now, thanks. he's an excellent, wise person with whom i feel comfortable, but he isn't able to undo the damage.
any comments or advice are still welcome.
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SENIOR MEMBER Game Over July 30 2007, 6:10 PM
If you two want to continue this childish argument, please do so in private. Emails are great for that sort of thing.
To Jenny:
I understand that what you've gone through must have been a horrible experience. I hope time will heal the damage and that you will be able to get back what you lost. Nerves that have been damaged sometimes repair themselves even if it takes time.
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(no login) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples July 30 2007, 8:13 PM
I agree with you Fennel! It is silly and I hate being like this. I always read everyones posts in an objective manner and don't jump to any conclusions, usually forming an oppinion based on what is written by the writer.
On the other hand It's not the first time on this forum, that someone responded to someones attacks and unjustified remarks for the sake of their own self defence.Right Fennel? :-)
No matter how silly others may have thought it was.
An attack in Public, calls for a defence in Public..
Jenny! Thankyou for your reply and your concern over the flareup!
You seem to be a very nice person and I just want you to understand that we believe that you have a serious problem on hand and no one thought that it was amusing. That's why it might be a problem for a professional to take care of, like your Doctor,sex therapist or a herbalist.
I hope everything goes well for you and I wish you the best for the future.
Blu-Jay
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(no login) Sure... July 30 2007, 9:11 PM
Anyone has a right to defend themselves when attacked, but calling someone an @sshole on the boards is going too far in my opinion. I don't mind debate or difference of opinions though.
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Blu-Jay
(no login) Exactly ! July 30 2007, 9:33 PM
I don't appreciate being called an *ss or Ignorant or any of those other terms, for posts that don't call for that kind of response. Nobody was jumping to any conclusions. Everyone just wanted to help.
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(no login) Davi... July 30 2007, 9:45 PM
Don't drive your car into a building because of a pair of nipples - That's the sort of thing Al Quaida would do.
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Alien Sheep
(Login ManyQuestions) Good news for Jenny? July 31 2007, 2:40 AM
Jenny - I will make a bet with you that if you make love with a man you truly care about, much or all of the nipple sensations will come back. Sex is almost totally psychological, and many people, women especially, link sex heavily with love and other emotions.
I believe you should get close to this nice man emotionally and physically. You have everything to gain. Besides, what is the alternative - being alone? More to gain than to lose, if you ask me. Ask your sex therpist and I bet they will agree with me that nothing will make you forget a bad experience like a new love.
A hopeless romantic,
Manyquestions
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jenny
(no login) thanks everyone August 1 2007, 12:37 AM
thanks for the hope with which you've all tried to console me. i still maintain my problems are of a physiological rather than pschological nature, but hope i will still be able to somehow recover enough to have sensation again.
davi, i hope you are ok and have not done anything drastic to yourself. i want you to be well.
best of everything to all.
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(Login boobman1) Desperate July 31 2009, 4:03 PM
Jenny,
I can sympathize somewhat with you, as my wife has totally lost her sex drive since she has been going through menapause. It is driving me insane!!! When we do make love, she orgasms and loves it, but then it is back to having no desire. I hope you can get something working for your situation. hang in there and don't give up.
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(no login) Nipple August 7 2009, 2:20 AM
JENNY: You might try Google to find "Nipple Fun Wear" I ordered a pair along time ago and still enjoy them. Its made out of rubber and sucks the nipple out. You can get use to wearing them for any length of time,but start slow and you can order any size. Rub chapstick or lipbalm on the nipple and supple and put it on your nipple and squeeze out the air. You can wear them anytime and in the shower if you wish. Thought this might help you and anyone else who doesnt want the snake bite kit. Yes I tried that also but like this better and dont have to have a device hanging on to you. Ihave even been able to sleep with them on,except sometimes one may get bumped off while sleeping. Have fun everyone,,,Hope this helps
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(Login Madilyn_Carey) Noobleberry Nipple Cups August 11 2009, 9:45 AM
Hey all,
I'm not even going to get into Jenny's issues, although I completely sympathize with her and wish her the best. I just wanted to say that Noogleberry has Nipple Cups (in addition to their breast cups)and I've ordered a pair to see how they work. Having said that, I know that I have to be EXTREMELY careful with the suction I apply using the Noogleberry pump...it's fierce and will turn a person inside-out if one isn't careful.
Basically, I'm just throwing that out there as an option to all of the other suction devices mentioned above. I figure since I'm having great success with Noogling my breasts then I might as well work on the nips at the same time. I'll keep you abreast (no pun intended) of the results/progress as I use the nipple cups.
That's it for now...happy growing...
Kisses,
Maddy
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(Login Axem_Ranger_001) Monkey Balm October 14 2009, 5:13 AM
I was reading about Jenny's problem and instead of finding a way to send her a message I thought it would be a better idea to just post it here so that others could benefit from my findings.
I was messing around with Hypnosis in an attempt to grow my breasts. I fell prey to a program that had me using a breast pump to try and start lactating. The pump that I purchased was apparently too strong as I soon found that I had lost most of the feeling in my nipples. Mad and irritated I searched the internet high and low for a solution and finally found one after trying almost every suggestion that I came across. A balm from Thailand that smells strangely like Vick’s Vapor rub. It’s called “White Monkey Holding Peach Balm” and it worked like a charm for me. It’s good for all kinds of stuff too, bruises, burns, scrapes. It just encourages your body to heal. Believe it or not, but I strongly urge anyone having the same problem to give it a try. The stuff’s super cheep too and you can even find it on e-bay. http://www.amazon.com/White-Monkey-Holdi...B00175YLUW
June 28 2007 at 9:05 PM Manyquestions (Login ManyQuestions)
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Here is why I am desperately seeing to have womanly nipples.
At first I thought to try to change my male breasts into small female breasts.
Small enough so they would not show. I would know I have them, but I didn't want to go public. However, three problems arose:
1. This is really difficult to do. I tried for a couple of months taking herbs, but got nowhere.
2. It is only worth doing if at the same time I could remove all hair from my chest - otherwise it would look gross. But this would be a continuing pain and major nuisance.
3. I don't want to risk seriously interfering with my libido or erections.
So I decided instead to try to make only my nipples more womanly. I figured this would give me much of what I want: I would have more sexually sensitive nipples and also I would have the knowledge that they were there. I could wear a heavy shirt or sweater and no one would look at me like I was weird, or know that I was a man with a woman's nipples on his chest.
So I ordered "Double Strength Nipple Development Cream" from the Transformation web site. Very expensive, a 3 month supply. They also recommended Anti-Androgen Capsules, female hormone precurser pills. But I didn't order them because I was afraid they would interfere with my libido/erections.
I used the cream for 2-3 months before it ran out. I used it as directed, faithfully. During this time my areola increased from roughly 22 mm in diameter to 30 mm in diameter - they almost doubled in area! And the nipples got larger too. Which was great. But my nipples got slightly less sensitive, not more sensitive. Very disappointing. They looked somewhat more girlish, but did not feel more sexually sensitive.
The cream ran out a week ago. My areola are back to 22 mm, and the nipples are back to their old sizes as well. But at least the sensitivity has returned.
I think the problem probably came from the male hormones in my body overrding the topical effects of the cream. In other words, without taking something that will affect my entire body (and thus endanger my libido/erections) I probably am on an impossible quest.
I am ready to give up. Unless anyone has any suggestions?
Thanks for listening,
Manyquestions
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Many me
(Login moonstruck61) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples June 28 2007, 11:10 PM
Snake bite kit. $3 at Walmart in the sporting goods section, camping supplies.
Careful though, you'll end up with monster nipples you can not hide without duct taping them down.
Don't worry about herbs too much. I take huge doses of anti-androgens and a pretty heavy dose of female hormones and I can tell you that orgasms are insane. Compared to what they were before, there is no comparison. It's like comparing a pine tree to chocolate pudding. There is no comparison. Period.
Orgasms are so incredible they scare me. I don't make a point of wanking off but every 3-4 days those to round things fill up, the swell to twice normal size and HURT badly. It gets so painful that I can't even walk. It's at that point that I know I have to relieve myself of this build up.
Before, orgasms lasted 1-2 seconds and just a little stuff dribbled out. Far, far from impressive and not really even worth the effort. Now, however, orgasms last as long as 30 seconds, I come close to passing out they are so extreme and it seems like gallons gush out. I could put a porn star to shame. Why? I have no idea. But I love it! Of course I would rather my plumbing was not as it is but I have it this way for now so I have to accept that. From what I've heard from TS girls that have had SRS, it's WAY better after surgery. Well, I think this is a taste of what's to come and I like it a whole lot. Sure, it will be "different" but these intense and extended orgasms are like nothing else on earth. I couldn't even imagine such a thing before. I'm sure part of it is because of the emotional shifts I've had since being on hormones but I assure you, there certainly is something physical going on too. Oh, and there's a pretty good chance I'm "shooting blanks" as they say. But that doesn't matter to me anymore.
I wouldn't trade the orgasms I get now for anything. I would call these side effects of these hormones to be a MAJOR BONUS.
Of course it may just be a weird fluke and I'm the only one that's had this happen. It may very well affect others differently.
As far as I'm concerned, this whole experience has been positive for me in every respect.
I'm feminizing nicely (but slowly) and when I have to relieve myself, it's incredibly pleasant.
Couldn't get much better than this.
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(Login ManyQuestions) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples June 29 2007, 2:37 AM
I don't understand - I thought that if a genetic man took a significant amount of female hormones he would find it difficult to have an erection. Yet you say that you have regular orgasms (of incredible power, yet!). I presume from your posting that you can have an erection/orgasm on a regular basis! Wow!
Is this common?
You have orgasms as powerful as only a woman's orgasms can be - are your nipples much more sensitive than when you were a regular guy as well? If so, wow!
I realize that suction from a snakebite kit can increase the size of nipples. Does it also increase their sensitivity?
Thanks,
Manyquestions
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(Login moonstruck61) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples June 29 2007, 3:23 AM
Well, as for having erections, well, they don't just happen. I'm not 16 anymore ya know.
I don't get physically horny at all anymore. When I was younger, I got "dog horny" and just went through the motions.
Now, the horniness is happening in my head and not in my crotch. And it's far, far more powerful.
"Dog horny" is just a mechanical event without emotion at all.
I now get what I call "emotionally horny". It's a very deep and base feeling. It's naughty and catty and nasty.
It just takes me over and emotionally I am swept into a tornado of emotions that spiral up to near orgasm.
Not quite, but just short of orgasm. It's purely emotional and there is no erection of any sort but despite that, my whole
body and "soul" is just alive with this very naughty, catty feeling. I can't really describe it any other way.
I honestly think that if I can learn to stop resisting that I may be able to actually have an orgasm from this.
But when this thing hits me, and it does without warning, it takes a minute, maybe two minutes to spin me up to the edge but for some reason, something in me resists and tries to quell these emotions and I basically shut down, or come down from the edge without getting there.
Never in my life have I ever experienced anything like it, I've never even heard of such a thing before.
But when I consider everything that has been happening to me this year, the only conclusion I can come to is that it's the hormones. What other thing could it be? I know the hormones have put me on an emotional roller coaster, I have had bouts of deep depression, sometimes bordering on suicidal thoughts, lots of crying, and everything in between. Maybe my EM's are the top of the roller coaster ride. I don't know. I know that the hormones HAVE beyond any shadow of a doubt brought a lot of emotional changes to me and a lot of physical changes too. All for the better. If I had it to do over, I would do it all over again without hesitation. No regrets. Well, one regret. That I didn't start this 30 years ago..
As for nipples, well, I had to back off on that. It was making them so freaking big that I was worried that someone would notice them and say something. I mean, freakishly big. And sensitive? When my shirt rubbed across them it would send me through the roof, sitting with my shirt off was even too much because the fan blowing on them would ignite my rockets. If you have a wife/girlfriend/SO, you're in for a treat. Put the suction cups on them for about an hour then take them off and have your wife/etc. go to town on them. You won't be able to handle it. And I assure you one thing, you'll treat a woman's nipples a lot gentler in the future after you've done this a few times. It gives you a new view and appreciation for female anatomy.
Actually I am thinking that I'm going to resume the nipple thing so that they too will hopefully attain "normal" size for female breasts. Why not? I'm growing a pair and transitioning fully to female anyway so I might as well.
Six months ago I was telling myself that I wasn't going to go this far, that I would just be happy to be a little female.
Hahaha!! Right. It's all or nothing. But I don't care anymore. The more I change, the better I like it. I'm actually starting to not hate my body so much. It sure is nice to wake up in the morning swing my legs out of bed, look down, see & feel female legs.
It just feel and looks right. Nothing but benefits. Nothing but benefits. No regrets.
Be careful about tiptoeing down the female path. It will sweep you up and carry you away and you won't want to go back.
It's nice. Really.
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(Login moonstruck61) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples June 29 2007, 5:31 AM
Oh, I just realized something.
Those little emotional things that I get, have nothing at all to do with the every few days thing where I have to relieve the pains.
There's no connection between the two at all. While I do feel very sexually "hot and bothered" during those episodes, I have not ever felt the urge to actually do relieve myself then.
And as to when I do actually have to relieve myself, that's a very different but highly emotional thing too.
Seriously, I really reach the point that I think I can't take it anymore and that I'm going to pass out if the orgasm doesn't end soon.
It goes on and on and on and on.. And even after it's over, baby, it ain't over. There's like what I would call aftershocks that for 3-4 minutes, maybe 20-30 of them in all. The aftershocks aren not orgasms but my whole body just convulses just as if they were.
I've pulled muscles in my back, chest, legs, etc. from the tensing up. All my muscles just lock up. Ever seen someone get shocked with those heart attack paddles? That's what it's like but it last for much longer.
I've asked around to see if any other TS girls have had or heard of anything like this but no replies.
I guess it's too far out there and it may just be me only that this has happened to.
It flies in the face of everything I've read, it's the exact opposite of what they tell you will happen when you take female hormones.
So how or why it's happening, I couldn't guess. While I think that most of it is in my head, some of it has to be something else.
Maybe because of the massive amounts of Saw Palmetto I'm taking has made my prostate extremely healthy. I don't know.
But whatever it is, I'm not complaining. Like I said, I don't make it a habit to wank off, I really don't care too much about that anymore but the time comes every few days when I have no choice in the matter, I have to or I am sure something will rupture and I'll end up in the emergency room with ruptured plumbing. The most I can go before it starts to hurt is about two days.
They go from walnuts to very large eggs, quadrupling in size. And the pain is BAD. Very, very bad. It's like getting kicked but it just hurts worse and worse as time goes on.
Maybe as time goes on this will go away. I don't know. It won't bother me if it doesn't..
And if it's this good (or better) after SRS, I can't wait!
I should have put this all in the above post to begin with but it seems we can't edit our posts.. Oh well.
Anyway, from what I've read, you can go a little ways down this path and back out before you reach the point of no return without causing yourself any real concern but how do you know when to stop? I guess the only way is to have a hormone test at the doctors. Me? I'm not stopping. This is my destiny and I'm enjoying it..
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(Login ManyQuestions) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples June 29 2007, 1:24 PM
Thanks very much.
If anyone else has any experiences/advice, this too would be very much appreciated.
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples June 30 2007, 11:35 AM
Hi Many Questions.
To make my nipples larger, I used Niplette from Avent. It's intended for correcting inverted nipples in breastfeeding women but works just as well for us chaps who want bigger nipples!
I think I got mine off eBay and it was pretty cheap. It feels really intense when your nipples are being sucked so hard by it - but don't suck too hard, or you'll get blisters.
Good luck!
Twink x
PS If anyone has any ideas on how to increase areola size, I personally would LOVE to hear it!!!
PPS Just done a throughly good massage with progesterone cream and then wild yam cream and my boobs are looking more full than they have for months! Let's hope it's a sign of things to come.
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SENIOR MEMBER Larger Nipples June 30 2007, 6:30 PM
Like you I have used the Niplette from Avent. It works quite well on the Nipples, making them more erect and fuller. It also makes them more sensitive to touch and temperature. However the small size of the Niplette cup prevents the nipples from becoming very long.
It does nothing for the Areolas so if any one has any ideas on how to make them larger please let us know.
I have looked for the snake bite kits in the UK without success.
Dreamer
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Fennel Fairy
(no login) Erm... June 30 2007, 7:37 PM
Perhaps the reason why they don't sell snakebite kits in the UK is because there aren't many deadly snakes...
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples July 1 2007, 10:22 AM
Correction - there aren't ANY!!! Get bitten by a grass snake or an adder (or the rare smooth snake if you're very un/lucky to see one) and it won't kill ya!
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(no login) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples July 3 2007, 4:04 PM
Yes,the snake bite kit is one of the best you can get. I've read about it on the Transfemme/Bountifulbreast web site. They work very well. I don't have the snake bite kit but I have something simular that I bought at our local sex shop. It's also sort of a suction device and seems to work well.
You might want to try a sex shop that sells sex toys. They most likely would carry something like that. With suction devices you need to be careful, the nipples can get quite large and over doing it or using it to much can be quite painful and may even cause some damage.
Twink, Here in the great white north we also don't have many deadly snakes. We do have some Rattle snakes and they're under protection. They're not as lethal as the ones in the states, but they can make you feel very sick and even kill people with a weaker imune system Like Elderly, very young kids and so on.
Eitherway, I would'nt want to get bit by one.
Blu-Jay :-)
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jenny
(no login) re.desperately seeking to have womanly nipples July 5 2007, 3:44 AM
hi, excuse me for entering this thread-i'm a woman and not a man. last year (august) i tried to enlarge my nipples using a snake-bite kit; so i'm reading what you guys are saying with interest. i didn't use it much-only a bit once a day for a week and then one day i left it on for 3/4 hour. (i used suction with it too on my nipples-a stupid thing) anyhow, i am amazed to see you all have increased sensitivity, because after only that one session, i have lost all sensitivity and it's been nearly a year now-hasn't returned. i'm horribly depressed about this-can't get over it-and furthermore- i no longer orgasm... this is the worst blow of my entire life...i used to have wonderful orgasms.
anyhow, i am puzzled how i could have lost everything but you guys have gained so much sensitivity? maybe you're tougher to begin with, whereas i am very fragile and weak in that area? the only solution i can find to the mystery is that i cut off the blood supply and destroyed the nerves to that area? any thoughts? sorry, i was amazed to find this thread and couldn't resist asking...
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stefanie
(Login stefanie_ss) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples July 5 2007, 4:33 AM
jenny,
i can see that there may be a possibility of losing sensitivity in your nipples but... to totally not be able to orgasm? there may be other problems, issues or something.
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(Login moonstruck61) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples July 5 2007, 4:45 AM
Jenny,
I'm terribly sorry that you had a bad experience with this. I can't imagine what could have caused the problem you experienced.
I can say though that for me, it works very well. The sensitivity of my nipples is 100's of times greater than ever before.
It's really made them TOO sensitive. Simple, normal activities that cause my shirt to pull across my nipples really "lights em up" so to speak. If after using something to pull a suction on them I touch them lightly with my fingers, it is really hard to handle. Just a litle touch causes me to convulse. I'm sure that if I wanted to take the time to learn to do it, I am certain that I could bring myself to orgasm strictly through playing with my nipples and no other physical contact with any other part of my body. It's THAT good.
Of course being transsexual, I'm of a different mindset than most folks which may have something to do with it.
I already have other unusual sexual side effects (good ones!) and this too falls right in like with my other experiences.
One thing I found that works very well to draw a suction on my nipples are these little black rubber things that come with those blue above ground swimming pools. It looks like a little Mexican sombrero sort of. It's used to block the water lines on the swimming pool while you change out the filter. It's just the right size and shape to do the job. I wore out a pair of snake bite thingies already when I discovered these things. They come with a pool when you buy one or you can order replacements in case you lose or break them. They are also more durable than the snake bite thingies so they have lasted much longer.
When I put them on, I lick them so they will seal better, squeeze them hard, place them over my nipple and let go.
They will pop back to their normal shape and draw a *strong* vacuum which will suck your nipple up into the little thingie.
It hurts a little at first then you forget about it. I go about the house and do stuff, I don't even think about it much.
I note when I put them on and take them off an hour later. After an hour, it's pulled my nipples waaaay out, they look very weird right at first but within about 5-10 minutes they pretty much return to normal. Another thing that happens is the vacuum pulls fluid right through the skin of my nipples. I guess it's water, I don't know, it's clear and doesn't have any taste.
Now, I just did this a few minutes ago, I put the little thingies on my nipples and left them on for a full hour.
Here's some pictures. Don't look if you don't want to see tranny titties. And no, I don't have pretty, perfect skin.
I have a serious hair problem that I am working to eliminate. But as a consequence of constant epilation, I end up with ingrown hairs and skin irritations. So my skin isn't all pretty yet. I will have to have laser therapy to rid myself of it and only then will I ever be able to have soft, pretty skin. So don't get all grossed out. One step at a time..
So, here you go, tranny tits during and after nipple modification.
The last picture shows a close up of the fluid that the cups sucked through my skin.
http://bayimg.com/AadFgAabf
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(Login stefanie_ss) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples July 5 2007, 4:48 AM
its funny that "we" all have a picture in our minds of what we want our breasts to look like. we can see our nipples, the size and shape of our areolas and the curve and fullness of our breasts. we take these products in hopes of achieving our dreams. but...what is normal?
http://www.007b.com/breast_gallery.php
just a question that makes you go hmmmmmmmmm.
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(Login moonstruck61) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples July 5 2007, 5:19 AM
I would be *THRILLED* to have a pair like the girl in the third column, second row down.
That would be *nice* and I would be *happy* beyond words.
The only thing that could possibly be better would be to have a luscious, scrumptious, perfect pair such as our beloved Fennel. ;-)
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Fennel Fairy
(no login) Morticia... July 5 2007, 6:49 AM
You're a real sweety! :-)
My nipples changed a lot after nursing. After breastfeeding for a total of 22 months, they are permanently erect. Always. And they are so sensitive that I can have orgasms if they are stimulated. They are not enormous by any means but I am happy with them.
I do believe that it is possible to cut off the circulation to the nips like Jenny Described and end up with nerve damage. That must have been devastating to say the least. And sure, there is a nerve connection between nips and vagina because I get vaginal orgasms from nipple stimulation. However, a total absense of orgasms are probably due to something else and not the nipple issue.
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(Login moonstruck61) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples July 7 2007, 12:25 AM
I just thought of something.
For those of us whose areola will very likely never, ever grow and become "normal" looking, I just thought of a very simple solution.
Tattoo them on. This thought just came to me out of the blue, so I looked it up. It seems this is a pretty common procedure.
http://www.permanent-makeup.ws/permanent...ration.htm
http://clusty.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&v%3Asources=webplus&query=tattoo+areola
It certainly can't cost very much and shouldn't take very long. It's got to be easy and basic to do.
I would think though that you would do better to see a specialist in this because they would likely
have more gentle equipment than the tattoo gun down at the "Dragon Inn" tattoo parlor.
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Davilee
(Login Davi-lee) OH,someone else has that too.... July 20 2007, 11:32 AM
Hey Moonstruck,Wow,it makes me feel better to know that someone else has got that great sideeffect.HAAAAAAHAHA!It was so funny reading what you wrote.
When I started my program I thought I was going to lose what libido I did have and definitely lose my erection ability.Thats what some places said.
Well,it sure didnt happen that way,Im actually more hornier than Ive been in a long time,I get hard constantly,it gets to be a nuisance in public.
I have sensitive nipples from enlarging them with rubber caps,I never have lost sensitivity over the 2-3 years Ive been doing that.So,that also helps the turn-on factor.
Anyway,It wasnt what I expected.Its a pleasant surprise,indeed.
And like you said,I find my orgasms are getting stronger,as I go along.
How long did it take you to get like that?
I was just thinking yesterday what you said in your post up top,Im starting to actually avoid having an orgasm for several days because the last ones I had were so strong,I felt contractions way up inside of my pelvis,and throughout my perineum and anus.I felt like I pulled something loose.
But,I think that I have something else going on in my pelvis,that is not a male organ,I think that I have some female structures from being intersexed.
Externally I have a shallow vulva formation across my scrotum and down into my perineum.Thats why I think that I may have something else internally.
Its never caused me a problem,until now that Ive been increasing my estrogens.
Oh yes,Ive been trying to increase the width of my areolas also.
They are bigger around but they are conical now,and when they get hard the entire areola hardens and narrows and sticks out more.
I have been hoping that the right application of hormones will make my areolas get wider.They are growing wider,but it has been slow so far.
I keep reminding myself that I havent been at this very long,so I should be patient.
What all are you taking,so that I can figure out where our plans are analogous and so figure out which supplements are doing this for us?
Thanx,sorry that was so long.^_^
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(Login ManyQuestions) Nipples and Suction -- -- Seeking Information July 21 2007, 12:40 AM
I tried enlarging my nipples using suction, and it works so far. Does it work long term? If I do it repeatedly, say every day for months, will my nipples be larger permanently (or semi-permanently)? I would love to have large, sensitive and erect nipples always, not just after I have been wearing the suction devices.
Could some of you please elaborate on the long term effects of the nipple suction devices? How large did your nipples get from suction alone (not from hormones), how sensitive, how erect, for how long? Thank you very much.
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(Login ManyQuestions) A Clarification July 21 2007, 1:02 AM
Looking back, my last posting probably was not clear. Let me try again.
While I am using the suction devices my tiny nipples grow wonderfully, but after I remove the suction they rapidly shrink down to their puny man size. What I would like to know is -- if I use the suction devices a lot - such as an hour a day for months - but with no hormones, will my nipples become permanently or semi-permanently larger? I realize they will never become as glorious as female nipples, but could I end up with something better than "normal" tiny un-erect man nipples?
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(Login Davi-lee) As far as my own "hobby"..... July 21 2007, 1:05 AM
Hi! Well,for me,Ive been doing the nipple thang for a long time.
I made my own caps/tubes because,I didnt know of that one nipple cup place then.
I started out small,1/4" and not even 1/8"long.Very shallow.
Now they're almost 1/2"wide and 3/8" long all the time.
When I pump them now,they get 3/8" wide(thats as wide as my tubes)and 1/2" long for quite awhile.The width is 3/8 for a bit then widens out after they relax a bit.
My problem is that I got greedy and vacked my entire areola and all a lot and I think that made them the way they are now.They are wider than when I started BUT when they get erect the whole areola and nipple engorge together and make one hard conical form.They look like one big nipple.HA!
But OH MY! do they feel good!
I have really been hard on my nips,Ive "blown them out"(blistered),countless times.BUT,Ive not lost sensitivity,they just get moreso.
Its about nerve growth,I believe.
I take B-Complex liquid drops.It is great for building nerve tissues and I take loads of Vit C.,which also is great for nerve tissue rebuilding.
Excuse me if I didnt answer something,I didnt have your note to see.
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(Login Davi-lee) Updated for Many???.... July 21 2007, 1:30 AM
Oh,uhm....yes you will get permanent results if you have them on for long enough periods.
I would leave my original caps on constantly.Id take them off to rest for a few hours,everyday.
How I started was I went to a hardware store and looked for "bolt end protectors",they are color coded rubber caps.
The biggest is 3/8"x1/2" they are usually grey.
You may have to look at the sizes stepped down from the grey,to see if one of those would be more appropriate.
Id start out with a cap that is more compact and closer to your beginning size.Because,it is just like any other vacking on body parts, its better on your nips,because there is not so much extra space.
Use that aloe vera gel sold for sunburn, as a lube for the caps.Its clear.
You will begin to see perm. growth after awhile.
Just be careful at first,they are sensitive flesh and the caps will pull lymph right into them.
Heres what i do,I put them on full pressure for a bit and then take them off and put them back on with less pressure,as they have swelled from the initial application.
**Something interesting Ive noticed since being on "the program",I can vac my nipples real hard for longer periods and they dont blister.And they stretch longer in the tube,like almost 3/4"!OMG!HA!
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(no login) question July 22 2007, 9:32 PM
hi -this is for davi lee, or anyone else who can help. can you please tell me more about these b complex liquid drops you are taking?
i am frantic to find something which will restore the nerves i've damaged in my nipple area. i'm trying everything i can think of. i am taking b vitamin complex, vitamin c, evening primrose oil, etc. but nothing seems to make any difference. so far my nipples and the rest of my breasts feel identical, i.e. when i touch my nipples it's like i'm touching any other part of my body. frightening. after nearly a year i'm still not used to this and cry all day long. i'm afraid to get close to a man for fear i won't be able to feel any pleasure and will therefore let him down. this was never the case before, although i was never able to have a much-longed for relationship with a man. i am a total wreck. it seems the nerves which caused nipples to become hard are damaged too, for this no longer happens. does anyone know of anything else i could do? i want to cling to hope somehow. i'm 38 now and can't fathom living the rest of my life like this-unable to orgasm or feel any sort of sensation in my once incredibly sensitive nipples.
should i be massaging? would massage help?
thanks so much.
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(Login Davi-lee) For Jenny... July 23 2007, 8:48 AM
Ohhhh.....you make me weepy,I really feel for you.
Sorry I didnt get back to you yet.
The B-complex sublingual is taken orally.Because that is the only way to absorb these vitamins properly.
The digestive system doesnt absorb them very well.
the liquid is held under the tongue and it is absorbed into the bloodstream.
I get mine at Walmart pharmacy,its only 2-3$You should be able to find it anywhere.
I have an idea for you,since it is absorbed through skin,try applying it directly to your nipples and areolas.It is a slightly thick liquid and has some sweetener in it,it would stick well to nipples and areolas.
Id try a few drips on them and let it soak for awhile and let it dry up on them.So,then it is on there and absorbing for a long time.
Are you taking enough vitamin C?I take the crystaline c powder,which is 5000mg per teasp.The more the better with C.
My friend has found another C product like Ester C,but better.I cant think of the name.
Ester C is supposed to be very easily absorbed.
You know,I found some info on Wikipedia about Prolactin.
It said that it stimulates proliferation of oligogendrocyte precursor cells,they differentiate into the cells responsible for the formation of myelin coatings on axons in the central nervous system.
Do you still massage your nipples and areolas?I dont know if producing prolactin will help rebuild your nerves in your nipples very quickly.
What massage do you do now?
Stimulating prolactin cant hurt.The signals are sent even if you dont feel them very strongly.
Heres another idea. Get some Estrogen gel or cream and start working it into your nipples and areolas for awhile.Estrogen is supposed to be responsible for development of those parts.
Have you tried that already?
I have some more ideas but I need to do some checking on some herbs for you.
I will get back to you and I will post it on here,OK?
I know Jenny,how horrible it must be too loose that facet of sensations.
I have had that same lack of feeling at times.Ive really been hard on my parts,trying to get them bigger.Ive had times when I thought mine wouldnt recover also.
How long has it been since you had that initial loss of sensations?
I treasure my nipple sensations very much,and I understand the complexity of the overall linking of nerve stimulations between breasts and belly and sexual organs, inside and out, and even down the legs and arms.
When you loose the one key to linking pleasure with the other points,there really is an "empty" spot in the overall amount of pleasure.
I think that you will recover,in time.
Usually,unless nerves are severed they will come back.
You know,I thought that your case was uncommon,because I messed my nipples and areolas up so much and I still have a lot of sensation.
Of course,Ive increased the size of mine by quite alot,and the more flesh you can grow the more nerves you will build.
Thats just my theory that I go by. Seems to work.
Bye
My working on them is the only reason I do have a lot of sensations
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(no login) thanks davi lee July 25 2007, 9:07 PM
many thanks for all the time you took to respond to my question. so many good ideas! thanks also for your encouragement. at the moment, my world appears very dark-it's now been 11 months and there is no improvement at all. i am praying for a miracle. there is almost no sensation there whatsoever. i feel totally asexual after having been extremely alive all my life. i went to a homeopathic doctor this week and she gave me hypernicum (st. john's wort) which is supposed to help the nerves regenerate. i just hope mine aren't so totally destroyed there is no hope. i'm going to try to round up some funds so i can afford a long series of acupuncture treatments. i don't know. i long for hope.
thanks again! good luck to you!
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(Login Davi-lee) Some more suggestions.... July 26 2007, 6:18 AM
Thanks Jenny.
yes,trying to find your energy blockage is a good thing also.
Nerves operate by chemicals and bioelectricity after all.
I have some other things that may help.
I read that lechithin either soy or egg,helps to rebuild nerve tissues
Seseme oil also is supposed to be good.
I read on hormone info.about progesterone, that it is used by the body to rebuild the myelin sheathes on nerve tissues.
Hope that some of these may help you.
I'll keep looking.
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(Login ManyQuestions) Jenny's Nipple and orgasm problems July 29 2007, 12:41 AM
hi, excuse me for entering this thread-i'm a woman and not a man. last year (august) i tried to enlarge my nipples using a snake-bite kit; so i'm reading what you guys are saying with interest. i didn't use it much-only a bit once a day for a week and then one day i left it on for 3/4 hour. (i used suction with it too on my nipples-a stupid thing) anyhow, i am amazed to see you all have increased sensitivity, because after only that one session, i have lost all sensitivity and it's been nearly a year now-hasn't returned. i'm horribly depressed about this-can't get over it-and furthermore- i no longer orgasm... this is the worst blow of my entire life...i used to have wonderful orgasms.
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Jenny - I am not a Doctor. Having admitted this, I cannot believe that one nipple enhancement session could have both desentisized your nipples and taken away your ability to have an orgasm. If it had only desensitized your nipples I would have found that hard to believe, but possible. But taking away your ability to have orgasms seems impossible to me.
Something else must be going on. Maybe you unconsciously feel guilty about trying to make your nipples more sensitive? If you were raised in a very religious home, you might feel that you were doing something wrong, and are punishing yourself for trying to make yourself more sexy, by making yourself less sexy. Or maybe something else happened at the same time - you had a bad love affair and on an unconscious level you are trying to prevent yourself from having your heat broken again by "de-sexing" yourself so you won't date any more? I'm not saying that I have the answer. But I am saying that I don't believe that one nipple suction session could prevent you from having orgasms.
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(no login) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples July 29 2007, 4:59 AM
Good point! Many Questions. I also believe that the problem has nothing to do with nipple enlargement. I think that maybe she needs a new lover or she needs something more to satisfy her sexually. Maybe she needs a bit of KINK or to live out some of her fantasys but I don't believe it's from the snake bite kit.
I also recomend she see her doctor and a sex therapist.
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(Login Davi-lee) Dont jump to conclusions... July 29 2007, 6:28 AM
Sure,there could be a mental block of some sort but it probably not from what you are mentioning.
She has had a lot of problems healthwise,did you read her story over on the other side?
She has had some difficulties with infections and some atypical growth and shrinkage results.
She sounds genuinely honest about getting all her normal function back.
i study a little on Ayurveda traditional Indian healing system,which is 4000+ yr old holistic health system that combines spirituality,science,pychology.
There are three main constitutions of human body types and also sharing of aspects of the others.
There is Vata:Air/Space(Ether),Pitta:Fire/Water,Kapha:Water/Earth.
Vata people have physical tendencies for these following things for Vata governs these.
Aspects of breathing, Aspects of the eyes, Movements in the muscles and tissues, Pulsations of the heart, All contraction and expansion aspects of the body, Movements and signals of the nerve cells,Aspects of digestion,Aspects of elimination/urine/menstruation/birthing.
There is a lot to this that I just cant write all of it.
Jenny,I would be interested in knowing what you are like physically and other characteristics,to see which form you are most like.
Vatas tend to be slender and rangy,Either very tall,taller than the average height of family,OR very short,a thin body frame,narrow shoulders or hips,Arms and legs may be either unusually long or unusually short,may have light small bones with prominent or protruding joints that tend to make cracking or popping sounds,may have deviated septum,may have leg problems.
Are high energy people that have problems with storing energy in the body,Vata tends to make them dry skinned and a tendency to leanness,they may find it difficult or impossible to gain weight,some gain and lose weight erratically.Have poor circulation generally.
The vata people need stimulating,nourishing foods and herbs.
Mentally Vata governs,Flexibility,Ability to communicate and creative resources. Power and movement coordination, adaptibility, inspiration, spiritual aspiration.
Negative Vata manifests as nervousness, fear, anxiety,and insecurities.
In the body Vata is the movement of the nervous system.
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Blu-Jay
(no login) NO CONCLUSIONS HERE, JUST POSSIBLE ANSWERS July 29 2007, 8:25 AM
Yes! health could very well be the reason for her problem. That's why I recomended she see a doctor and a sex Therapist! Now ! Most of us don't follow people around this whole Forum! So, No I geuss we didn't read her post on the main board. We or I replied to what she had posted on 'THIS' forum!!
Now, what she has clearly stated was that she thinks that lost lost her ability to "peak" because she had done the nipple enlargement.
We/I don't believe that it could of come from that! There must have been another reason for her problem. So without knowing about her health problems,we listed some very likely possibilities that could cause someone not to Orgasm. These possibilities not uncommen ones.
Believe Me! Sex therapists deal with these kind of problems all the time.
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Blu-Jay
(no login) This Is The 3rd Time I Read Her Posts ! July 29 2007, 8:45 AM
I just read through her posts on THIS forum "again" and she doesn't mention anything about her Med problems. She speaks of fear of not being able to satisfy a man! and other stuff like that. READ THEM!
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Davilee
(Login Davi-lee) I beleive I just heard an ass.... July 30 2007, 11:14 AM
NOW whos being an ass!
Geezus! What the F**K! is your problem.
Im going to be plain and simple here.
What did I say to YOU with large amounts of exclamation points over and over and over!!!!
I didnt wack you the other day like I wanted to,but now IM F*ING Mad!
She has been treated like crap over there,...and now here.
Thats what Im PO'd about! Whay are you yelling at me for something that you didnt go investigate yourself! Being ignorant of the whole situation,leads you to yell BS at me?!?! GREAT LOGIC!!....OH YEAH... NO LOGIC! Just irrationality.
SHE explains everything in the threads over there,of course she DIDNT say every little bit of info here,she was addressing ME!!!!I commented over there and she knew I knew, all about what was going on.
She was demeaned over there by idjits,who were so UNknowledgeable about nervous disorders(as here)....BLAHHHHHHHH! Who the F cares if you have never heard of it in your small world of experience....do you study disorders of nervous systems and related biology???
Why do people think that when something rare comes up IT MUST BE A JOKE OR A LIE....
She is a really hurting person and has a real problem,basically saying hey you have a mental problem is not very nice...now is it??
I just got done on Tribe dealing with an F**King ASS that was real nice then attacked me for my stand supporting transgender people and my own personal feelings on myself.....They said there are no gender problems with people....OH REALLY!! YOU F**ING ASS,you get born with a body thats screwed up and your mental gender screwed up and I want to see what you think then.
THIS F**ing crap here has just sent me to the edge right now...Ive got to see this irrational BS over some innocent comments in defense of Jenny.
Think before you F**ing type a damn word,BJ, do you even think of how it made her feel??? and I thought i overreacted the other day.
AAAAAAAAUUUUUGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!! Im out of here for a while,by Stefanie.
Im going to go drive my car into a building.
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Blu-Jay
(no login) Davi, Davi,Davi ! July 30 2007, 5:21 PM
I suggest you read over all our posts again,but read the text as it is,not between the lines.
Nobody suggested anybody was an *ss other than 'you' on your post.
Nobody suggested anybody was lying other than 'you' on your post.
Nobody suggested that any of this was a Joke other than 'you' on your post.
Now, Since you are the only one that has attacked or responed to anyone in a rude, aggressive manner I would say that you owe everyone on THIS forum an apology for your behavior. So far in your short time here, you have responded to Morticia and Fennel in an aggressive manner over their oppinion about lips.You've just done the same to Manyquestions and myself for expressing ligitimate oppinions about a problem someone has posted. These oppinions were in line with what everyone else had posted about this subject.
Nobody ever questioned your knowledge about things, But you attacked ours or mine.
First of all you don't know me,what I know,what I do for a living or any thing about the world I live in. So you can stick that comment up yours. All I'll tell you is Ive been around for a while. I will tell you that I'll take scientific fact before magical potions and notions!
If you want to talk and try help people on a personal level, don't do it on a Public Forum.
As I can remember, she in her original post,never mentioned that she only wanted Davi to answer. In her second one, she mentioned "Davi" then followed with " or anyone else who can help"
Normally, I'm very easy to get along with and don't criticize somebody elses oppinions..But juding you by your last post lets me believe that your not an adult, you're just a young boy that wants to be in the forefront and thinks they have all the answers. Geez! Davi, grow up and read the posts for what they say and not for things you just pull out of the air! Flying off the handle at people the post things you don't understand, tells me that,you should look at your own nerves before you try to heal someone elses. Now! Davi, I liked you. But if you want to be like this, then I can tell you that you've met an adversary that you can't keep up to.
Blu-Jay
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jenny
(no login) please , guys... July 30 2007, 5:51 PM
hi it's me... feeling simply awful to have caused a row. please don't get in a fight over me. you can't imagine how badly that makes me feel. i'm a really gentle person and hate enmity.
firstly-i am deeply grateful for everyone's input. you are all super people, and have helped me a lot. i will say nearly everyone of you is correct. it simply amazes me.
davi-your discription of me is 100% correct-i simply marvel. i am very slim and delicate with long arms and legs. have always been ultra sensative to everything. have mvp (mitral valve prolapse), which causes an even greater, almost unbearable sensitivity at times. uber sensitive to noises, stress, etc.
and yes, many questions, i was raised in a very strict home. and you are correct about the lover business. i never had a lover before and finally met some guy online. anyhow, it turned out rather badly; we ended up talking dirty to one another and this was a first for me and he made some suggestions to me about nipple play etc (excuse me for being so graphic), and i, being always highly sexual was really turned on by this and thought i would make my nipples even better (i.e. bigger for him). thus i ended up in this situation. after i had my unfortunate incident i became almost deranged with horror because my nipples had become numb and for me my orgasms always felt like wonderful electric full body currents running between my genitals and nipples. now, suddenly the nipple area was totally numb and so no signals seemed to be reaching them, thus deadening the orgasmic effect. when i do orgasm it is like my body is desperately trying to accomplish this but instead of delightful feelings in the nipples-hardening etc. there is only a dull, unpleasant pain. also, the nipples no longer get hard from arousal.
this is really upsetting for me. now (incidentally) i have just met a wonderful man whom i think would make a great lover. but i am terrified what he will think as my nipples seem weird, mushy and don't harden. also i can't get aroused like before, because there is no feeling in the nipples. i wake up unable to even feel anything in the breast area - and have panicky moments all morning until noon- not sure who i am anymore-don't feel like a woman etc. because i can't feel any sensation in that area. it's really frightening. in addition i know i am not orgasming anymore, because my face and whole body used to be flushed when i awoke, now it isn't. also i feel very poorly as a result.
alas, i am not making this all up. i never had any problems of this nature before.
excuse all the silly graphic discriptions. thanks everyone for listening. please do not argue and fight over this. you are all great. forgive me for causing turmoil. davi, i thank you for your wisdom and attention too.
i have been seeing a sex therapist for a year now, thanks. he's an excellent, wise person with whom i feel comfortable, but he isn't able to undo the damage.
any comments or advice are still welcome.
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Fennel Fairy
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SENIOR MEMBER Game Over July 30 2007, 6:10 PM
If you two want to continue this childish argument, please do so in private. Emails are great for that sort of thing.
To Jenny:
I understand that what you've gone through must have been a horrible experience. I hope time will heal the damage and that you will be able to get back what you lost. Nerves that have been damaged sometimes repair themselves even if it takes time.
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Blu-Jay
(no login) Re: Desperately Seeking to have Womanly Nipples July 30 2007, 8:13 PM
I agree with you Fennel! It is silly and I hate being like this. I always read everyones posts in an objective manner and don't jump to any conclusions, usually forming an oppinion based on what is written by the writer.
On the other hand It's not the first time on this forum, that someone responded to someones attacks and unjustified remarks for the sake of their own self defence.Right Fennel? :-)
No matter how silly others may have thought it was.
An attack in Public, calls for a defence in Public..
Jenny! Thankyou for your reply and your concern over the flareup!
You seem to be a very nice person and I just want you to understand that we believe that you have a serious problem on hand and no one thought that it was amusing. That's why it might be a problem for a professional to take care of, like your Doctor,sex therapist or a herbalist.
I hope everything goes well for you and I wish you the best for the future.
Blu-Jay
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Fennel
(no login) Sure... July 30 2007, 9:11 PM
Anyone has a right to defend themselves when attacked, but calling someone an @sshole on the boards is going too far in my opinion. I don't mind debate or difference of opinions though.
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Blu-Jay
(no login) Exactly ! July 30 2007, 9:33 PM
I don't appreciate being called an *ss or Ignorant or any of those other terms, for posts that don't call for that kind of response. Nobody was jumping to any conclusions. Everyone just wanted to help.
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Fennel
(no login) Davi... July 30 2007, 9:45 PM
Don't drive your car into a building because of a pair of nipples - That's the sort of thing Al Quaida would do.
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Alien Sheep
(Login ManyQuestions) Good news for Jenny? July 31 2007, 2:40 AM
Jenny - I will make a bet with you that if you make love with a man you truly care about, much or all of the nipple sensations will come back. Sex is almost totally psychological, and many people, women especially, link sex heavily with love and other emotions.
I believe you should get close to this nice man emotionally and physically. You have everything to gain. Besides, what is the alternative - being alone? More to gain than to lose, if you ask me. Ask your sex therpist and I bet they will agree with me that nothing will make you forget a bad experience like a new love.
A hopeless romantic,
Manyquestions
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jenny
(no login) thanks everyone August 1 2007, 12:37 AM
thanks for the hope with which you've all tried to console me. i still maintain my problems are of a physiological rather than pschological nature, but hope i will still be able to somehow recover enough to have sensation again.
davi, i hope you are ok and have not done anything drastic to yourself. i want you to be well.
best of everything to all.
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bobman1
(Login boobman1) Desperate July 31 2009, 4:03 PM
Jenny,
I can sympathize somewhat with you, as my wife has totally lost her sex drive since she has been going through menapause. It is driving me insane!!! When we do make love, she orgasms and loves it, but then it is back to having no desire. I hope you can get something working for your situation. hang in there and don't give up.
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Tiff
(no login) Nipple August 7 2009, 2:20 AM
JENNY: You might try Google to find "Nipple Fun Wear" I ordered a pair along time ago and still enjoy them. Its made out of rubber and sucks the nipple out. You can get use to wearing them for any length of time,but start slow and you can order any size. Rub chapstick or lipbalm on the nipple and supple and put it on your nipple and squeeze out the air. You can wear them anytime and in the shower if you wish. Thought this might help you and anyone else who doesnt want the snake bite kit. Yes I tried that also but like this better and dont have to have a device hanging on to you. Ihave even been able to sleep with them on,except sometimes one may get bumped off while sleeping. Have fun everyone,,,Hope this helps
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Maddy
(Login Madilyn_Carey) Noobleberry Nipple Cups August 11 2009, 9:45 AM
Hey all,
I'm not even going to get into Jenny's issues, although I completely sympathize with her and wish her the best. I just wanted to say that Noogleberry has Nipple Cups (in addition to their breast cups)and I've ordered a pair to see how they work. Having said that, I know that I have to be EXTREMELY careful with the suction I apply using the Noogleberry pump...it's fierce and will turn a person inside-out if one isn't careful.
Basically, I'm just throwing that out there as an option to all of the other suction devices mentioned above. I figure since I'm having great success with Noogling my breasts then I might as well work on the nips at the same time. I'll keep you abreast (no pun intended) of the results/progress as I use the nipple cups.
That's it for now...happy growing...
Kisses,
Maddy
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Axem
(Login Axem_Ranger_001) Monkey Balm October 14 2009, 5:13 AM
I was reading about Jenny's problem and instead of finding a way to send her a message I thought it would be a better idea to just post it here so that others could benefit from my findings.
I was messing around with Hypnosis in an attempt to grow my breasts. I fell prey to a program that had me using a breast pump to try and start lactating. The pump that I purchased was apparently too strong as I soon found that I had lost most of the feeling in my nipples. Mad and irritated I searched the internet high and low for a solution and finally found one after trying almost every suggestion that I came across. A balm from Thailand that smells strangely like Vick’s Vapor rub. It’s called “White Monkey Holding Peach Balm” and it worked like a charm for me. It’s good for all kinds of stuff too, bruises, burns, scrapes. It just encourages your body to heal. Believe it or not, but I strongly urge anyone having the same problem to give it a try. The stuff’s super cheep too and you can even find it on e-bay. http://www.amazon.com/White-Monkey-Holdi...B00175YLUW