(25-09-2012, 04:58 PM)Pansy-Mae Wrote: ...nor as likely as excessive ammounts of fat, sugar and a million other things that we all ingest frequently!
LOL. Truth.
Though not really for me... I'm probably on the leanest diet right now known to man. Other than pure vegans, but even they aren't necessarily all that lean, limiting themselves to only plants they have a greater chance of ending up eating fatty and sugary plants. I'm on a "lean foods" diet... keeping my sugars, salts, fats, everything except protein and real nutrients low.
This post was last modified: 25-09-2012, 11:40 PM by AbiDrew85.
Actually, PM does NOT increase the levels of estrogen in the body. It contains several very powerful phytoestrogens that bind with estrogen receptors throughout the body and mimicking many of the effects estrogen has. At least as far as I have been able to determine through research, it does NOT have the same side effects as high doses of estrogen HRT.
Also realize that estrogen is a general term for a class of steroidal hormones that includes the three forms of estrogen found naturally occurring in natal females (estrone, estradiol, estriol) as well as numerous pharmaceutical creations such as estradiol valereate, DES, Premarin and others. The research that showed "estrogen" HRT to cause strokes, clotting problems, heart and liver damage used older pharmaceutical forms (primarily Premarin, google "Women's Health Initiative" as well as the numerous FDA advisories about Premarin) that were relatively weak (compared to estradiol valereate or naturally occurring estradiol) and had to be taken in such high amounts that they caused those significant side effects. The medical establishment and big pharma have not conducted similar tests on oral and sublingual estradiol valereate but so far very few incidences of the side effects noted with weaker Premarin have been noted when using estradiol, partly because it's so much more effective that lower, safer doses are used, even for transgender women.
In my opinion, the risk of adverse events such as stroke or embolism when taking PM is pretty darn low. This is not to say there is no risk, but the level of risk is NOT the same as taking something like Premarin. As far as breast cancer goes, PM seems to actually have protective effects against certain strains of estrogen sensitive breast cancer.
Hope this helps.
Also realize that estrogen is a general term for a class of steroidal hormones that includes the three forms of estrogen found naturally occurring in natal females (estrone, estradiol, estriol) as well as numerous pharmaceutical creations such as estradiol valereate, DES, Premarin and others. The research that showed "estrogen" HRT to cause strokes, clotting problems, heart and liver damage used older pharmaceutical forms (primarily Premarin, google "Women's Health Initiative" as well as the numerous FDA advisories about Premarin) that were relatively weak (compared to estradiol valereate or naturally occurring estradiol) and had to be taken in such high amounts that they caused those significant side effects. The medical establishment and big pharma have not conducted similar tests on oral and sublingual estradiol valereate but so far very few incidences of the side effects noted with weaker Premarin have been noted when using estradiol, partly because it's so much more effective that lower, safer doses are used, even for transgender women.
In my opinion, the risk of adverse events such as stroke or embolism when taking PM is pretty darn low. This is not to say there is no risk, but the level of risk is NOT the same as taking something like Premarin. As far as breast cancer goes, PM seems to actually have protective effects against certain strains of estrogen sensitive breast cancer.
Hope this helps.
This post was last modified: 27-09-2012, 06:00 PM by chrishoney.
Great explanation. You know so much...
It sounds just like birth control. Yeah, taking it does increase your risk of blood clots, etc. However, the risks are very minimal and rarely occur, and most people can take it safely with no worries. Of course, if you're already prone to blood clots and the like, then there will be an increased risk of it happening to you. However, even then there's still a chance of never experiencing that. I don't see why it would cause liver damage, especially if you do a cleanse every 3-6 months.
It sounds just like birth control. Yeah, taking it does increase your risk of blood clots, etc. However, the risks are very minimal and rarely occur, and most people can take it safely with no worries. Of course, if you're already prone to blood clots and the like, then there will be an increased risk of it happening to you. However, even then there's still a chance of never experiencing that. I don't see why it would cause liver damage, especially if you do a cleanse every 3-6 months.
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