I've always been very upset about my appearance. Now, I know this is easy to say when sitting behind a computer screen.. But I am actually a pretty decent looking guy.. I have all my hair, teeth, no missing limbs or flaws/defects. But my self image before PM has always been REALLY bad. I attribute a lot of it to my childhood. My wife sees truly how happy I am for the first time in my life. She told me a week ago that she figured out that she didn't think she looked attractive (gorgeous blond @ 120lbs, how could she not?). She said that she just needs to improve her self image so she doesn't see me as a competitor. This is a HUGE change from even a month ago where she stated the stuff from my previous postings.
She tried PM because of the effects it's had on me, but it made her extremely depressed. This was when she was only taking 500mg. She tried it twice spaced over a week. It was noticeably bad.
I started at 2000mg for, I think two weeks. I'd have to go back and look at my previous posts.. I then did 1000 in the morning and 2000 at night. I think it was ClaraKay who recommended spacing it out throughout the day. So that day was when I started spacing them out.
I do not eat in the AM, and since I take adderall for serotonin levels (ADHD) I don't get very hungry until later in the day. I drink a cup of coffee everyday and typically have A beer or Bloody Mary at night. I haven't really changed my eating habits, but am constantly thinking about kidney and liver issues.. Thank you all for the comments.
She tried PM because of the effects it's had on me, but it made her extremely depressed. This was when she was only taking 500mg. She tried it twice spaced over a week. It was noticeably bad.
I started at 2000mg for, I think two weeks. I'd have to go back and look at my previous posts.. I then did 1000 in the morning and 2000 at night. I think it was ClaraKay who recommended spacing it out throughout the day. So that day was when I started spacing them out.
I do not eat in the AM, and since I take adderall for serotonin levels (ADHD) I don't get very hungry until later in the day. I drink a cup of coffee everyday and typically have A beer or Bloody Mary at night. I haven't really changed my eating habits, but am constantly thinking about kidney and liver issues.. Thank you all for the comments.
Hi H.!
Glad to hear your wife may be softening some.
I understand about appearance and self perception. It is amazing how some of us are so uncomfortable with our normal male appearance but how that improves so much as we are able to bring out a feminine side.
As to your amounts, may I make one small suggestion?
1000 daily is recommended, but for genetic females. Conventional wisdom here has always indicated that bio males need more. Many use 2000 a day. I understand wanting more. I usually, after a long time on my program, ingest about 3500 daily.
However, my "biy bits" have suffered (not sure that is the right word...LOL) as a result. Of course that may have to do with age and other factors, too. Still, you might, if you wish to keep your wife happy, be careful about such large doses. Smaller amounts are also effective, with patience.
But either way, I would break your dosage into three amounts or more. Morning, lunch, dinner and right before bed are my chosen times and I find they work well!
All the best!
Glad to hear your wife may be softening some.
I understand about appearance and self perception. It is amazing how some of us are so uncomfortable with our normal male appearance but how that improves so much as we are able to bring out a feminine side.
As to your amounts, may I make one small suggestion?
1000 daily is recommended, but for genetic females. Conventional wisdom here has always indicated that bio males need more. Many use 2000 a day. I understand wanting more. I usually, after a long time on my program, ingest about 3500 daily.
However, my "biy bits" have suffered (not sure that is the right word...LOL) as a result. Of course that may have to do with age and other factors, too. Still, you might, if you wish to keep your wife happy, be careful about such large doses. Smaller amounts are also effective, with patience.
But either way, I would break your dosage into three amounts or more. Morning, lunch, dinner and right before bed are my chosen times and I find they work well!
All the best!
Hurricane, now that PM has had its way with you, you've become the 'Eye of the Hurricane'.
Seriously, I think it's a good idea to be clear on your objectives while doing NBE, and adjust your program accordingly. For example, my objectives are:
1. Quell compulsive masturbation and porn addiction.
2. Treat anxiety caused by gender identity expression deprivation
3. Feminize my body through breast development, reduced body hair, etc.
4. Maintain ability to achieve erections (with aid of stimulants as needed)
5. Preserve other benefits of PM, i.e., reduced joint stiffness/better flexibility
I've been experimenting with different PM dosage levels to find the lowest dosage which achieves these objectives. I've pretty much determined that 3 X 500mg of PM will do the trick for me at this time. At 1000 mg/day, my joints stiffen and my breast growth slows down. At 2000 mg and higher, it's rather hard to keep an erection going. I also take a one week break from PM each month to stimulate growth and temporarily restore T-levels (as evidenced by the return of REM sleep erections).
I've added Spearmint to my routine this week to gauge its effect. My thinking is that 800 mg/day Spearmint + 1000 mg/day PM will also work while costing less. Spearmint is an anti-androgen that blocks free testosterone production. My DHT level should also drop.
BTW, my wife wants to try PM starting after her next checkup. I hope she has better luck with it than yours did.
CK
Seriously, I think it's a good idea to be clear on your objectives while doing NBE, and adjust your program accordingly. For example, my objectives are:
1. Quell compulsive masturbation and porn addiction.
2. Treat anxiety caused by gender identity expression deprivation
3. Feminize my body through breast development, reduced body hair, etc.
4. Maintain ability to achieve erections (with aid of stimulants as needed)
5. Preserve other benefits of PM, i.e., reduced joint stiffness/better flexibility
I've been experimenting with different PM dosage levels to find the lowest dosage which achieves these objectives. I've pretty much determined that 3 X 500mg of PM will do the trick for me at this time. At 1000 mg/day, my joints stiffen and my breast growth slows down. At 2000 mg and higher, it's rather hard to keep an erection going. I also take a one week break from PM each month to stimulate growth and temporarily restore T-levels (as evidenced by the return of REM sleep erections).
I've added Spearmint to my routine this week to gauge its effect. My thinking is that 800 mg/day Spearmint + 1000 mg/day PM will also work while costing less. Spearmint is an anti-androgen that blocks free testosterone production. My DHT level should also drop.
BTW, my wife wants to try PM starting after her next checkup. I hope she has better luck with it than yours did.
CK
I wanted to start because of the mental and physical benefits.
Mental:
Anger Management
Empathy
Concentration
Sympathy
And it'd be nice if I could cry once in a while, still won't happen.
Wanted to stop feeling the need to cross dress or maybe figure out if i had more issues than I thought.
Stopped viewing porn 4-5 years ago so that wasn't an issue.
Stop thinking about sex 24/7.
Physical:
Skin softness
Body hair growth
Chest growth*
* I thought it'd take a lot more than what I'm taking to spark that, so this wasn't something I cared much about. I figured I would start with mental benefits then if my mind decided to be for it, I'd talk to my wife about it.
I was pretty confident that you were all liars and the outcome would be that I was out 15 bucks and a lesson learned.
I do not care about shrinkage or lack of usage. I have not experienced a problem in that department thus far. Morning "issues" have seized which is awesome.
Mental:
Anger Management
Empathy
Concentration
Sympathy
And it'd be nice if I could cry once in a while, still won't happen.
Wanted to stop feeling the need to cross dress or maybe figure out if i had more issues than I thought.
Stopped viewing porn 4-5 years ago so that wasn't an issue.
Stop thinking about sex 24/7.
Physical:
Skin softness
Body hair growth
Chest growth*
* I thought it'd take a lot more than what I'm taking to spark that, so this wasn't something I cared much about. I figured I would start with mental benefits then if my mind decided to be for it, I'd talk to my wife about it.
I was pretty confident that you were all liars and the outcome would be that I was out 15 bucks and a lesson learned.
I do not care about shrinkage or lack of usage. I have not experienced a problem in that department thus far. Morning "issues" have seized which is awesome.
Hi Samantha, the first week to 10 days was just one tablet each morning and night as per suggested dose PM supplier. I did eventually realised this dosage was for generic females and then ramped it up to double the dose for a few days.
I am now, as I said, on 3000mg per day and applying the PM cream at the same time. I have kept a chart throughout which does indicate some growth. Maybe it would be a good idea to post some thumbnail pictures to give a clearer idea.
I am thinking that 'spearmint' would be a good idea to help suppress the testerone but since I am in my late 60's I suspect it may well be reduced anyway. One thing about being advanced in my years (mentally and physically I have been blessed with a younger body) I have hardly any body hair not even under my arms. My wife thought I had been shaving legs and arms but I hadn't, lucky me lol! I have never in my entire life had chest hair etc so this helps too.
I wanted to get a breast suction device like a NB but I have no idea as yet how to even approach my wife with that idea. She accepts I am big chested for a man and the current slow growth has not been picked up YET!
This is why Hurricane I am so envious of your position having a wife who is so supportive of your needs, maybe in a 100yrs or so mine will Lol!
Samantha - You hit the nail on the head Patience, Patience, and even more Patience.
Love to you all, you are a real Lifeline.
Heather
XXX
I am now, as I said, on 3000mg per day and applying the PM cream at the same time. I have kept a chart throughout which does indicate some growth. Maybe it would be a good idea to post some thumbnail pictures to give a clearer idea.
I am thinking that 'spearmint' would be a good idea to help suppress the testerone but since I am in my late 60's I suspect it may well be reduced anyway. One thing about being advanced in my years (mentally and physically I have been blessed with a younger body) I have hardly any body hair not even under my arms. My wife thought I had been shaving legs and arms but I hadn't, lucky me lol! I have never in my entire life had chest hair etc so this helps too.
I wanted to get a breast suction device like a NB but I have no idea as yet how to even approach my wife with that idea. She accepts I am big chested for a man and the current slow growth has not been picked up YET!
This is why Hurricane I am so envious of your position having a wife who is so supportive of your needs, maybe in a 100yrs or so mine will Lol!
Samantha - You hit the nail on the head Patience, Patience, and even more Patience.
Love to you all, you are a real Lifeline.
Heather
XXX
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