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What the hell????

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Hmmm I don't really know what to say about it. I haven't measured for a couple of months but it looks as if the girls are getting smaller. I take pm daily up to about 3000 mg I was using red clover and maca. It's just got me baffled , any ideas
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Hi kuzzy,

You've been noticeably quiet, glad to know you're still workin the program. Your problem might be tha Maca and red clover. Red clover is estrogenic and binds to estrogen receptors, however a study made mention of this: below is some info regarding what I'm saying. What are you using as your anti-androgen?



Try this and see if it helps,
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=17658
It's good to hear from you again! Wink
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Notes for this Study:
Red Clover-In postmenopausal women given the isoflavone supplement (MF11RCE) at 40mg twice daily for a period of 90 days, supplementation failed to influence estrogen or SHBG but appeared to increase testosterone concentrations in serum (22%) and decreased endometrial thickness.
http://examine.com/supplements/Red+Clover+Extract/

Maca-Evidence from all parts of the globe suggest and validate Maca as an aphrodisiac, where it affects both genders and does not appear to work through any hormones (following this though, Maca has repeatedly failed to increase testosterone, estrogen, and both LH and FSH; overall, Maca is not hormonal in any way). The mechanisms surrounding Maca and aphrodisia are unknown, and the bioactives are unknown; all that is known is that the basic root extract works and the compounds appear to be water soluble
http://examine.com/supplements/Maca/


PM is good, adding the right combination and eliminating your dht is your best bet!

DHT-
Dihydrotestosterone is often used in research settings when studying androgenic hormones because it’s a potent, non-aromatizable androgen receptor agonist. Meaning, not only is DHT strong, it also doesn’t convert to estriadol and it binds to androgen receptors and triggers a response.
http://dihydrotestosterone.info
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