(07-08-2023, 08:56 PM)Cagedmuscle213 Wrote: So just for discussion shake I thought I propose this approach. Unfortunately I am a usually all in or nothing kind of person and when I go all in I go from 0-100 in a blink of an eye, no after thought once I've started.
Anyways... My current t thoughts are what if hypothetically speaking I come off my cycle of testosterone, not use any post cycle therapies to return my body back to close to normal as it can get hormone level wise, but instead jump on using pm and other herbs to increase and promote estrogen. Obviously a bad idea from going from one extreme to the other. Part of me thinks that of one were to do this it would so to act as like a jump start since all that test will make the body have to balance itself by producing estrogen, but with no post cycle like hcg or clomid etc the testies won't restart themselves or not as quickly as they would with a post cycle to help, and so naturally coming off test the body will increase estrogen, and then adding pn and sp, and maybe other herbs will act as a jump start.
Again obviously a bad idea, and it would be hell on anyone's body who ever did try anything like this.
But for discussion and argument sake what do you all think would happen.
First question I'd have is why you're taking testosterone. Is it a replacement or additional? I'm on T replacement because a pituitary tumor knocked out my natural T production. Replacement T therapy can occasionally cause gynecomastia (male breast growth) which is what happened in my case, which I've augmented to good effect with supplements and pumping while continuing my T replacement. I started with PM and was having good results unlit I developed a DVT in my leg (NO FUN!). I've since replaced the PM with other supplements that don't have potential blood clotting side effects.
My initial thought would be instead of stopping the Testosterone, just add an anti androgen like Red Reshi, to the PM, and see what happens. My guess is that adding the PM and RR to your T supplement, might trigger some nice breast growth. Just be careful of possible blood clots.
Obviously I have no medical or scientific background to support my idea, so take it for what it's worth (probably not much).
Best regards,
ChuckM