[Lotus]

I know a few here have fibromyalgia, a 2010 study showed how short bursts of exercise can help reduce pain. That's the issue, getting past the initial threshold of pain. I'll say this about FM Get determined and take control of that pain before it sidelines you for good, don't let life pass you by. !! (psa out).


Fibromyalgia symptoms improved by lifestyle adjustments
BioMed Central
Summary:

Short bursts of physical activity can ease fibromyalgia symptoms. Researchers writing in BioMed Central's open access journal Arthritis Research & Therapy have shown that encouraging patients to undertake 'Lifestyle Physical Activity' (LPA) can markedly increase the average number of steps taken per day and produce clinically relevant reductions in perceived disability and pain.
http://www.sciencedaily.net/releases/201...203230.htm


Decrease of fear avoidance beliefs following person-centered progressive resistance exercise contributes to reduced pain disability in women with fibromyalgia: secondary exploratory analyses from a randomized controlled trial
http://arthritis-research.biomedcentral....016-1007-0

[Huggy]

Hiya Lotus

Fibromyalgia is one of the issues my sister has had to contend with for many years. We have actually looked into this to some depth and you are right, it's a beastie that needs to be contained before it gets too much of a grip. Unfortunately what is generally not so appreciated is that a diagnosis of Fibro is often just doctor speak for "We know you have ouch! but don't really know why". MS and Lupus are often miss diagnosed as Fibro, as are many other conditions than manifest themselves as pain.

The problem then is that what might help for one flavour of Fibro may actually aggravate another. Exercise being a good example. Keeping everything moving with moderate activity helps the muscles and lymphatic system clear out the toxins and cell debris that needs to be flushed out, which would otherwise cause inflammation (causing pain). But if the pain is caused by tissue/nerve damage which is manifesting itself as inflammation, working the muscles by exercise can actually aggravate the situation.

And to further cloud the waters, trying to exercise through the pain (my legs are going all goosey just thinking about that!) will release endorphins as part of the body's coping mechanism, so there may well be some short term pain relief. Unfortunately once the endorphins have left the system, greater pain levels may be payback because of the strain caused by the exercise.

But.... for some flavours of Fibro, the best thing you can do is nurture the underlying fitness levels. Which is where I guess these studies come in. The problem is, if you are the one feeling ouch but not sure which version of Fibro you have, do you really want to put yourself up to and through the pain barrier to find out?

However, there are a couple of things that really do help. Stress! Or rather, stress reduction. Too much to go into here, but stress and pain, and pain management are clearly linked. And we are not talking 'shouting-at-the-kids' stress. Emotional, physical, psychological, environmental, any form that hits your particular buttons can trigger a pain response. Real life means we cannot escape all the stress triggers in our lives, but to learn stress management skills WILL lower the pain levels. Even something like taking a regular hot bath with nice smellies and reeeellllaaaaaxxxx can be more effective than a fistful of pain killers (not that they work half the time anyway).

Inflammation control is another proven helper. So anti-inflammatories should be considered, and anti-histamines can make a big difference.

Also look at acid/alkali diets. If someone has Fibro they will almost always be sensitive to acid foods and even something as innocuous as an orange can cause a flare-up. Again, too much to go into here but from research and our own experience this does really help.

And most importantly..... HUG! You can't overdose on hugs :-)

Huggy

[Lotus]

Thanks Huggy, that's an excellent post, I can appreciate the goosy legs lol, I was diagnosed with fibro in 98'. More hugs back at you my friend. .

[Huggy]

Thanks Huggy, that's an excellent post, I can appreciate the goosy legs lol, I was diagnosed with fibro in 98'. More hugs back at you my friend. .

Hiya bud :-)

I forgot you mentioned that you had Fibro (sorry). My info is somewhat out of date now and I am sure more has been learned about alkali/acid levels and health by now, but what we learned and from our own experience there really does seem to be a connection between the body's PH and pain. Those with poor health will almost always have higher acidity levels. Oh, and stress can be a major contributor!

Happy to throw a few more thoughts your way, but knowing how good you are at digging up the good stuff, may I suggest this could be a subject worth looking into? If you do find anything of interest I would reeeely like to hear. As although my sisters Fibro is mostly under control now, it does flair up on occasion and she is incapacitated when it does. Guessing you know what that's like? :-(

Actually, I just had a thought. With all the information you have unearthed regarding inflammation and NBE, I wonder if this might have a bearing too? Lower PH (acid) causes inflammation.

Huggy.

[Lotus]

Hiya bud :-)

I forgot you mentioned that you had Fibro (sorry). My info is somewhat out of date now and I am sure more has been learned about alkali/acid levels and health by now, but what we learned and from our own experience there really does seem to be a connection between the body's PH and pain. Those with poor health will almost always have higher acidity levels. Oh, and stress can be a major contributor!

Good point (re: PH and pain), stress and fibro are synonymously linked.

Happy to throw a few more thoughts your way, but knowing how good you are at digging up the good stuff, may I suggest this could be a subject worth looking into? If you do find anything of interest I would reeeely like to hear. As although my sisters Fibro is mostly under control now, it does flair up on occasion and she is incapacitated when it does. Guessing you know what that's like? :-(

That's cool, thanks for the tip, unfortunately I know all to well how fibro works.

Actually, I just had a thought. With all the information you have unearthed regarding inflammation and NBE, I wonder if this might have a bearing too? Lower PH (acid) causes inflammation.

It seems quite possible there is a cross connection. Lowering acidity or keeping it in balance has a wide range of health benefits. Lemons are acidic outside the body, but, alkalizing in our bodies and can help raise PH levels. I like lemon water for this application, additionally— Salmon, Sardines, CoQ10, (personal choice is astaxanthin) help ease fibro pain and raise PH. Short term use of licorice root helps relieve Fibromyalgia pain.

[Lotus]

My lastest test results showed I had a pregnant lady's estrogen level (1822 pg/mL). A week later another test revealed 703 pg/mL. E2 is still at 4 mg per day.

My free T is .97%...........spiro @ 100mg currently. Total T was 13 ng/dL


No big deal, I'm doing about 100 squats per day (although I missed 2 days in the last 12 days). It took about 2weeks of getting to 100-125 per day. I started at 20 per day then worked my way up. Now if I can do this with a handicap (surgery w/back implant, bad knees yada yada) I guess anybody can lol. I give credit to echapman for inspiration.

[Sofia Bunny]

My lastest test results showed I had a pregnant lady's estrogen level (1822 pg/mL). A week later another test revealed 703 pg/mL. E2 is still at 4 mg per day.

My free T is .97%...spiro @ 100mg currently. Total T was 13 ng/dL


No big deal, I'm doing about 100 squats per day (although I missed 2 days in the last 12 days). It took about 2weeks of getting to 100-125 per day. I started at 20 per day then worked my way up. Now if I can do this with a handicap (surgery w/back implant, bad knees yada yada) I guess anybody can lol. I give credit to echapman for inspiration.

Wow, putting me to shame, I barely roll out of bed and I call that my exercise!  Ha ha ha.

You had to go post your results.  You know I am anxiously waiting to do my tests again, that doesn't help!!! Ha ha ha. 

[Lotus]

My lastest test results showed I had a pregnant lady's estrogen level (1822 pg/mL). A week later another test revealed 703 pg/mL. E2 is still at 4 mg per day.

My free T is .97%...........spiro @ 100mg currently. Total T was 13 ng/dL


No big deal, I'm doing about 100 squats per day (although I missed 2 days in the last 12 days). It took about 2weeks of getting to 100-125 per day. I started at 20 per day then worked my way up. Now if I can do this with a handicap (surgery w/back implant, bad knees yada yada) I guess anybody can lol. I give credit to echapman for inspiration.

Wow, putting me to shame, I barely roll out of bed and I call that my exercise! Ha ha ha.

You had to go post your results. You know I am anxiously waiting to do my tests again, that doesn't help!!! Ha ha ha.

Lol, trust me when I say it's not easy for me either. I figure I'm burning about 150 calories per 100 squats. Hopefully it's boosting HGH too. The E2 results came as a shock to me too, I haven't been doing things too differently. The only exception was some intermittent fasting and licorice root @ 450 mg 2x daily (3-4 days usage) to boost energy (cortisol). The next weeks test result was no LR and no fasting. I'm not to worried if T will be raised, I'm confident most will end up leaking pro-aromatase.

I think you'll be suprised (in a good way) when you get tested agian, meaning the lowering of T and raised E. Good luck

[missboobshirt]

are you squatting for dat booty, lotus? :p make sure to use resistance! I wouldn't mind seeing a booty shot!! lol show off dem curves

[Lotus]

are you squatting for dat booty, lotus? :p make sure to use resistance! I wouldn't mind seeing a booty shot!! lol show off dem curves

You so funny missb .........yes yes, I'm booty hunting by squatting. I did 150 the other day. Breaking them up helps (25-50) 3-4 sets. So as I've learned squats are a whole body work out, (ideally for NBE).