[onotira]

I’m 30-something male, currently been on feminizing HRT for 1 year. I’ve been having great effects with breast growth and overall fat redistribution. The conventional wisdom is that HRT cannot change your hip bones to a feminine configuration if you start after young adulthood. And that has been my experience.

However, I was really intrigued when I read a few posts and comments on this forum that talked about people’s experience with Uterine glandular and getting what seemed to them (without getting an xray) to be shifting, the “wings” of the hips adjusting to a female position. Something perhaps about a hormone in the uterus tissue (relaxin)?

Basically I know nothing but saw a few posts on here and wanted to start a thread to see if anyone else had experience or science knowledge to clear up this intriguing possibility.

[Heaven's Night]

I can offer my personal experience as that's pretty much all I have, there doesn't seem to be much studies to quote on this one, but some speculation and anecdotes exist. And my experience does which is quite amazing on the glandular therapy in general.

The only thing I can think of that has changed my hips this much aisde from fat distribution is glandulars, ovary and uterus glandular especially. Interestingly the location of the bones seem to stay almost as near to the skin despite of weight gain, only way I can explain this is pelvic tilt changing and hips opening/widening which at my age should be impossible. My hips have widened since the beginning of HRT (three and half years) for 9,5", all while everything feels like before, just massively wider.

My friend Melissa found some anecdotes on this and we speculated that uterine glandular might be mimicing relaxin or E4 and that could help explain the hips opening and ending up permanently wider, but this is all speculation, but my body changes seem to prove it, at least that something has done this and it shouldn't be possible when starting at thirty seven. Keep in mind that I'm not a run off the mill XY dude, my body is a bit strange and everything points towards an intersex condition, but the thing with uterine glandular is interesting, there are some anecdotes speculating this kind of effect, but I might well be an anomaly.

[Marica]

Every time I found a new post on BreastNexum my curiosity becomes bigger and a lot of questions start to fill my mind…
In particular: uterine glandular can work without HRT regimen ?!? (Only NBE)

[Heaven's Night]

That's a question I can't answer because I've done the glandular therapy only while on HRT and other NBE items. But if you follow the trail of anecdotes, there are people who have gotten body changes on these things without being on convnetional HRT at the same time. I suspect there's far greater chance of any NBE working when there's existing female hormone balance present either naturally or by medication.

What comes to uterine glandular, I think it works in a similar manner as what bovine ovary does, there seems to be a huge personal differences on how it behaves and its not well understood nor explained why some benefit so much while others get next to nothing from it. Uterine tissue is even more elusive than ovary as for latter, there is evidence on how and why it works. For uterine, I wish there was something, but for now its personal experiences and online anecdotes we have to go on with. I would say the best approach is to not expect anything and just go and try, that's what I've done with a lot things which later have been proven to work.

I can't prove exactly what has done the changes on my pelvic/hip width, but my experience correlates with the speculation on uterine tissue possibly being able to mimic relaxin and or E4 effects. I'm quite sure the OP of the thread might be talking about same mentions Melissa dug up two years ago, that's where I heard of this at first and my experience seems to match. I would say its not a big loss at least to try Swansons multiglandular on side of Bovine Ovary, its not insanely expensive either when done on a moderate dose. (Mine is two caps a day, matching 300mg BO, 300mg Uterine + the other ingredient in it.)

[Marica]

I think that my curiosity will win and I will give Uterine Glandular a try… Actually I’m on BO since six weeks, so I think it’s to soon to expect any big result, but looking myself at the mirror  I can notice a very small change on my fat distribution from waist to hips and butt and wearing my usual skinny jeans I feel them more adhering. I don’t know if that is for BO or DHEA and Progesterone  creams (or the mix) that I’m using on lower part over the breast. About breast instead it’s becoming every day more fuller and rounded…  

[tomi66]

Basically I know nothing but saw a few posts on here and wanted to start a thread to see if anyone else had experience or science knowledge to clear up this intriguing possibility.

Hi Onotira,
Welcome to the forum.

I was on BO for 2 years, the effects for me were very slow. About a year into it I started having occasional lower back pain and hip discomfort mostly noticeable while I was sleeping. I really didn't think much of it because of my job and daily workout routine, then the back acheswentawaybut hip discomfort persisted during my sleep. After reading through som old BO threads I found one about pelvic tilt and it completely made sense.

I didn't keep good measurements from day one, except on my breast size, as feminization wasn't the primary goal, it was a bonus, if BO worked. But after the first year I started looking closer at my rear end, especially after my partner said, your butt is getting a little fat , so fast forward to the end of year 2 and I was enjoying BO and moved to a maintenance plan on 1000 mg a day of Uterine Glandular and BO blend, by then the hip discomfort subsided and my butt was a little bigger and hips were a little wider and I wanted more, so I went to see a teledoc and got on HRT and stopped BO.

Since starting estradiol 4 month ago the hip discomfort came back with a vengeance and my shape is getting an hour glass look with fat distribution moving a lot quicker than my two years on BO. Now this is all anecdotal but BO my have been a catalyst for the HRT to work on pelvic tilt, which is causing the hip discomfort in my sleep.

Keep in mind I started BO for breast enhancement, I thought if it didn't work no big deal. What I didn't realize was how it would change me mentally in a way I can't explain, it didn't change my sexual orientation or preference just a calmness in me. Since stopping BO and starting HRT, that mental calmness is still there. I am not transitioning just feminizing, I think they call it non binary now.

Laura and Lotus have threads that can outline a good program and the science of it all, two champions of information and progress to back it up.

[onotira]

Thanks for sharing your experiences, they’re super interesting and insightful!

Reading Heaven’s Night’s experience with pelvic tilt and hip widening is really encouraging, especially since they started seeing changes even after starting HRT in their 30s. It’s fascinating that uterine glandulars might contribute to such physical changes, even though this is not widely studied.

Tomi’s experience with BO and uterine glandulars is also intriguing—especially the impact it had on their hip and rear changes. It seems like these therapies could have a broader effect than initially anticipated, especially when combined with HRT, which is very exciting, as I’m in this for overall feminization.

I’d love to hear more thoughts or any other personal experiences with uterine glandulars and their influence on the hips and pelvis—whether or not they were combined with HRT. It seems like there might be some real potential here, but it’s still a bit of a mystery. Any more input would be greatly appreciated!

Also, for those of you who have had success with these therapies, could you share a sample starting regimen? I’d love to know how you integrated these supplements into your routine, especially alongside or after starting HRT.

Right now I take a very low dose of HRT (just 1 mg estradiol sublingual pill/day) and I have ordered several bottles of BO and Women’s Multi-Glandular (pure Uterine glandular wasn’t available). I also have bottles of pituitary glandular, not sure the best way to use it to optimize.

Thinking about doing 1 BO + PG in the morning and 1 WMG in the evening to start and see what happens. Is this too low or a good starting dose to begin to see how things affect me?

Thanks everyone!

[Heaven's Night]

Funny that you used neutral pronouns, I'm a woman, just use she/her. ^_^ This is a funny issue as in my language genered pronouns do not exist.

I would suggest taking 1-2 pituitary on the side, keep ovary dose highest and the multi glandular moderate. I suggest taking most in the evenings as estrogens natually peak during nighttime and you want to emphasize that with your NBE program.

I might be genetically advantaged on this, but the big shift in lower body thickness started around the time I started glandulars and it has steadily continued since. Also the much talked about topical protocol has had an effect on hips, and Pioglitazone, but both of these have sped up or strengthened fat distribution change. The pelvic tilt and width seems to be more about glandulars and HRT working together. I knew from reading online that BO can have a big effect on lower body, but I never expected to have nine and half inch difference in only three and half years, all of that time I haven't even been on full glandular therapy.

Weirdest part of it is how it feels that my bones are placed in same way as before, but I've gotten so much wider and I have also lost height and my posture is very different. Only way I can explain this is that something about the glandular therapy combined with HRT is mimicing relaxin or E4, and uterine glandular has been suspected to do so. I really wish to one day see science being done on this matter as my experience seems to prove the speculation.

The link of Bovine ovary and estradiol has been well established already. About the Uterine, Melissa once found a rodent study which stated that the glandulars were mimicing bunch of hormones and if I remember correctly, some of it seemed to prove the whole theory. Unfortunately she didn't link me the text so I haven't read that study myself. I have to reach out to her and ask if she remembers where to find it. This is the only science trail I've heard of, the rest is lived experience and anecdotes.

[Sullaria007]

I’d love to get wider hip bones!

Does anyone who has gotten this effect have an ideal dosage/combination?

[Heaven's Night]

I’d love to get wider hip bones!

Does anyone who has gotten this effect have an ideal dosage/combination?

I don't know what ideal dosage or combination is, but with glandulars I've tried plenty of dosages and found that higher has been better for me on Bovine ovary andPituitary. Uterine I have had to keep low because it would otherwise cost too much but it does indeed appear to help. 

Since starting HRT my hips have widened for 11,3" and I've been taking glandulars since the month seven.