[Lotus]

I am stiil not sure I understand it all despite your amazing efforts Lotus, for which I have to give you huge thanks.

The thing that was crossing my mind today is that as I understand it, the male endocrine system will attempt to redress any perceived imbalance to ones normal baseline male level ie it attempts to keep the E and T levels at a balance which, whilst unique idivually, is pretty clear cut for producing ,ale/female characteristics.


If we start to flood the system with PM or any other phytoestrogen, will not the body automatically attempt to balance this perceived inequality by conversion of E ( maybe) to T, or might it actually stimulate T production using similar reasoning Now being that we are actually talking phytoestrogens as opposed to 'the real things', might we not actually be lowering our natural E base?.

I ask this because after some months of PM interspersed with one or two week FG breaks, I have actually found male libido has far from diminished - it has shot through the roof and as I said somewhere else, I am not certain but am beginning to wonder if it is causing hair thinning (hence the spearmint thread btw).


I probably am making completely wrong assumptions here or am showing a total lack of understanding - but it does have a sort of logic ... well perhaps.


Once again, thanks for all your invaluable contributions -I just wish I could get my head around it all!!!

M x

Hey there M,

The endocrine system is truly a fascinating piece of precision (like a big double layer cake) lol, and your metabolism is the icing on the cake. Sorry that's the foodie in me talking. The idea of causing the cascade wasn't mine, but from our dear Abi, which I'm pretty sure she thinks I'm a stalker from when I saw she was on the forum last and pm'd her (I don't mind her thinking that).

Anyways from the cascade came the other ideas of making it more effective, and a bit of trail and error (i.e. Experimenting) you end up learning the hard way about those experiments.

For instance, why does E cause Atrophy/ED?, like I posted earlier, E is tricking the brain and androgen receptors to think enough is produced, thereby shutting the production of T down. Androgen receptors are in the penis and at which point not getting the signal from mr. T and causing the atrophy. (Sorry no pun)


Let me post this before I get booted again, (happens)