[Lotus]

Anyways, the thought occurred about Free T, what if we didn't take AA's to shut down T production?. Body builders have been using the principals of manipulation forever right?. So why can't we use that just in reverse at bit?.

If you use the T in your body and try to manipulate it through Aromatase what's the worst could happen?

Lotus you are so far ahead of me at this, I can see your logic I think, maybe

Me Im a bit younger (45) and in better shape than Ive been in years... Ive ramped up the PM to 3500-4000 MG and I still get weak morning wood occaisonally, it works FINE right now BUT Im also seeing other very pleasant to me side effects from the PM... You know SOFT skin, thinner slower growing body hair, BOOBS starting to grow, loss of any kind of "male scent" ect.....

Why wouldnt I want an AA to try to make this work better again???

I get aromatase of FREE T to E I think

Strange thing happened to me when I first started this journey.... My GF is going through menopause and she drinks soy milk and takes Estroven over the counter pills, (black cohosh and soy mostly I think) anyway I started with huge soy intake and her pills and it was like WTF??? I started getting hairier and my guy was working like I was 22 LOL

So the PM, spearmint caps, chinese skullcap caps, and occasional licorice cap has definitely done what Im looking for so far....

Id love it if you could elaborate on this concept, thanks

You're talking about just using your circulating T right?. I remember reading about an approach of an endo for his mtf patient, his theory was to keep hormones entirely on the female end. And while that made obvious sense the thought occurred about using our existing T (or Free T) just to convert to E. And hey why not?, it's already going on in the first place right?. It's that small .02% being produced, why not more, are you with me so far?

Ok, if I could make this statement my signature I would, it's like it's yelling out for attention.


Men produce 3mg to 10mg of T per day, and of that 4% gets converted to DHT and .02% gets converted to estrogen, (estradiol E2)

The prostate converts 95% of T to DHT by 5 alpha reductase, ( 5ar).

.02% of E is converted by the enzyme aromatase, this small percentage can be misleading, estradiol is 100 more potent at the receptor sites then T, that means T needs to balance at the same level to have the same affinity.

Please somebody help me out here!