[Outsider]

I can't say I have seen much growth per say. I did notice softening of the skin, and they do appear to be a bit fuller, enough so that my wife noticed, but as far as something measurable I have no change there.
After about 3 months I finally checked my temperature and found it to be too low so I added kelp, and now my temp is in the zone. I am taking 6 pills per day.
I am dropping the spearmint this week, as I see it might be interfering with my progress. I am also taking the Swanson herbal prostrate pills, which seem to be a nice mix of Anti-Androgen's, mainly SP, but again, perhaps that isn't the right thing for me either. I added pumpkin seed oil a week or so ago. Sp did help get some growing pains, but I think there might be something better like WP instead.

My main reason for choosing the BO path is that I want the permanent changes if there is such a thing.

I did order the kilo of PM from eBay as well, should be coming near the end of the month. I am toying with the blend idea Outsider is interested in.

Drop the SP since it can interfere with your progress because it also has some anti-estrogenic properties along with being bad for your pancreas. If you've been using it and spearmint with BO all this time that's probably what slowed/stalled your progress.

You already have pumpkin seed oil your program, so you don't even need the SP. You would benefit from WP since your on a BO program.

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I've actually already started my alternating BO/PM program.

So far I think my alternating plan might be working, but it's a bit soon to really tell( I'm only 71 days into my BO program). The first time I took 2000mg PM on 1/6 and I had aches again when I went back to the BO for 3 days. I'm back to PM again today, but at half the dose of last time.