(21-02-2015, 04:05 AM)Lotus Wrote: Yes yes you "know" who I mean, lol.

Ok well, PM and SP are anti-estrogenic, so to a certain extent you limit growth because of its active ingredient PM (daidzein), SP, inhibits receptors (progesterone) it reduces estrogens effects when combined with HRT meds, phytoestrogens (PM) mimic E2, catch my drift?.

This misconception of cascading receptors means lost potential, active estrogens (free) have to find the exact receptor, oh sure the diffuse over cell membrane, but it doesn't mean they'll be activated. And what cells get activated doesn't mean the will take up more molecules to make them better. It's called the lock and key theory.

Instead think in terms of target tissues (breast, bone etc), use massaging agents like coconut oil, it bypasses the first pass metabolism and is active in the blood stream and goes straight to the receptors (builds tissue), anti DHT, anti-immflatorty, antioxidant, yadda yadda, you get the picture.

Wait a minute? Maybe I've missed something: since when is PM anti-estrogenic?