09-03-2015, 12:35 AM
That's good idea adding k2, how do you supplement it?, I tried grass fed butter in some coffee that Pom suggested, not bad. Egg yolks, gouda and brie cheese are other sources of k2 from what I've read.
That study is a good find (thanks). A healthy immune system is a big priority in NBE for sure. Mine went haywire when I pushed too hard.
ER-beta is in the bones, which is tied into NBE response elements, cancer too. I recently came across that B2 improves ER-a sensitivity.
Everything I read had Vitamin D increasing "total and free T", which imo can be a good thing since E comes from T. The androstenedione pathway converts T to E1 then to E2 and back again to E1. DHT which I understood had no value in NBE takes a exit pathway that possibly has a ER-beta link. (too funny).
It does seem odd why aromatase therapy wouldn't be included with HRT more often. Some treatment protocols for gynecomastia will include aromatase inhibitors with T therapy as a way to control runaway T. The initial supra therapeutic dosage of testosterone gets dumped into E in some cases of gyno, probably more often than not.
You can hardly find any related nbe info on pro-aromatase, when search terms are "promoter gene/expression" the yield is somewhat better, mostly it's about AI's. But here recently I think aromatase comes in many disguises
, e.g. 17 beta HSD's, NAPHD (it's another enzyme), NO2 (nitric oxide), a few others too, heck I'd even call the androstenedione pathway an aromatase.
Btw, I'm glad you came out of moth balls, welcome back.
That study is a good find (thanks). A healthy immune system is a big priority in NBE for sure. Mine went haywire when I pushed too hard.
ER-beta is in the bones, which is tied into NBE response elements, cancer too. I recently came across that B2 improves ER-a sensitivity.
Everything I read had Vitamin D increasing "total and free T", which imo can be a good thing since E comes from T. The androstenedione pathway converts T to E1 then to E2 and back again to E1. DHT which I understood had no value in NBE takes a exit pathway that possibly has a ER-beta link. (too funny).
It does seem odd why aromatase therapy wouldn't be included with HRT more often. Some treatment protocols for gynecomastia will include aromatase inhibitors with T therapy as a way to control runaway T. The initial supra therapeutic dosage of testosterone gets dumped into E in some cases of gyno, probably more often than not.
You can hardly find any related nbe info on pro-aromatase, when search terms are "promoter gene/expression" the yield is somewhat better, mostly it's about AI's. But here recently I think aromatase comes in many disguises
, e.g. 17 beta HSD's, NAPHD (it's another enzyme), NO2 (nitric oxide), a few others too, heck I'd even call the androstenedione pathway an aromatase. Btw, I'm glad you came out of moth balls, welcome back.