[bryony]

Bryony,

I'm going to drop out of this exchange. It's done enough damage already, imo.

It's significant to me that, in the 21st century, to disagree with the prevailing orthodoxy is considered "damaging". I don't see the damage. Debate is healthy. Damage is accepting something that you believe is wrong, to keep everyone happy. That way leads to a loss of freedom.

The message I'm getting is that you have a profound sense of disgust for late transitioning transsexual women who happen to be married to wives who can't accept their transition, but go ahead anyway.

Almost right. You left out the bit about deceiving them that they were cis-gendered for their entire married lives, depriving them of any chance to live and grow old with someone who had not lied by omission in order to get a wife and mother. It's an important distinction.

If the wife had agreed to the proposal with eyes wide open in order to get a husband and children, and then reneged on the agreement, then I would consider her to be at fault.

Am I a villain to expect honesty between loving partners?

That many of these men are not really transsexuals, but rather autogynephiles as described by psychiatrist Ray Blanchard, though his work has been largely discredited.

I think to be able to live as a husband and father for some 30-odd years with no homosexual feelings is distinctly different from screaming at puberty about possessing a penis and feeling distincly erotic feelings for boys.

I honestly cannot see how the two classes can be lumped in together. I believe that the discrediting was achieved mostly by activists who didn't like one group of transsexuals being somehow 'more real' than the other in my opinion .

The discrediting was more a triumph of political correctness than science, I feel.

Good luck to you on wherever your journey takes you.

And to you!

B.