[bryony]

If you take normal male on the far left and classic transsexual on the far right, I would put you and me to the left of centre and and mid-life-late-transitioner/"lesbian transsexual" to the right of centre.

How would you classify those in left-center of this spectrum?

I think they defy classification - that's why I think it is a spectrum.

I dont want to try to pretend, however successfully (or not - mostly not) that I am a woman, I want to have been born one. Therein lies the dysphoria.

Even though I agree we fall in the same area of the gender identity spectrum, I think our ulterior motives for pursuing NBE but still presenting as male is very different. I think it's simply in my nature to test and blur gender boundaries and expectations regardless of what my bio-sex is.

It's probably a generational thing. You are more comfortable with the hand that life has dealt you than I.

It's a funny thing when the most radical thing you can say in the 21st century (apparently) is that I wish I had been born normal.... that is to say, within one standard deviation from the mean of the normal distribution for sexuality/gender...

B.