[Epicene]

High doses of anything E can make the body reject it, and turn up the T. Many peeps with great success stories have historically been around 2000 mg or less per day. And many think taking a breast and letting the body reset is a plus.

I'm very much aware of this. My previous runs have only been on 500-1000mg a day though (I'm cheap ). The dose softened my skin a bit and gave me temporary swelling that went away after stopping. I did have the glandular soreness and swelling (budding), but that happens very easily for me probably due to the gyno. I figure I'll need a dose of 1500-2500 for significant development due to my trials. I'm no newbie, I'm just not very active.

This is true. Btw, Saw palmetto inhibits DHT in the prostrate @ 32%, finasteride and reishi is 80%, dutas is slightly above 92%.

Also Polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) inhibits DHT @ 60-70% , my choice is EPO, evening primrose oil.

I've taken saw palmetto for a long time to handle acne, so I just rolled it into NBE without too much thought. I know spearmint seems to work well against my testosterone, but it doesn't help my acne much (DHT). Thanks for the suggestions. I'll have to look more into the EPO and reishi. I've only tried saw palmetto, spearmint, and red clover.