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Mixing NBE herbs and fatty acids
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(22-09-2015, 02:23 AM)lightwinder Wrote:  I've finally got a daily NBE program together and was wondering if any of you might have some suggestions on dosage, or the herb combinations below.

Lotus' thread mentions phyo-estrogens have the most impact within a few hours of consumption. Research on grapefruit juice seems to indicate it has the maximum effect of reducing metabolic breakdown immediately after it is taken. I refuse to take mountains of pills all day, so I'm using all powder or liquid extract and dumping everything into a water bottle along with Coconut Oil and Hemp Oil (great Omega-3/GLA source!) plus Soy Leicithin to emulsify the water/oil. By mixing it all up, I'm getting a small but continuous dose spread out throughout the day.

It's actually tolerable (I have poor taste Big Grin) as long as I use a "sport top" waterbottle. The sport top design means I don't really smell it, I just taste it. The pink grapefruit has enough natural sugars and acidity to mask the flavor of the other herbs and oils. A smoothie might be a better approach - just need a decent blender firstDodgy

Pill wise, I'm taking once a day of the following (at night):

standard multivitamin
multimineral suppliment with boron
1x Glucosamine HCL (1500mg) with MSM (1500mg)
1x Evening Primrose Oil 1300mg
B-complex mix (B1, B2, B3, B6, B12)

+PM breast cream massage morning/night.

There are a lot of extra minerals, but I figure my body can safely use what it needs and get rid of the rest.

Waterbottle contents:

5-alpha Reductase Inhibitors:
Chinese Skullcap powder (20:1 extract)- about 2000mg
Reishi Mushroom powder (4:1 extract with "Cracked Spores") - about 2000mg
White Peony (1:3 liquid extract) - 5 drops

Phyto-estrogens:
Pure PM powder extract: 1500mg to start, working up to 3000mg in a month
**Estro8PN Hop Extract capsule emptied (100ug of 8-prenylnaringenin, a powerful ER-alpha receptor phyo-estrogen) - starting at 1 capsule, working to 3 capsules in a month

Fatty Acids:
100% Organic Pure Coconut Oil - 3 Tablespoons
100% Organic Pure Hemp Oil (3:1 ratio of Omega-3 to Omega-6 GLA) - 3 Tablespoons

Emuslifier for Fatty Acids:
Liquid Soy Lecithin: (still figuring out amount).

Juice:
100% Pure Pink Grapefruit Juice - 16oz (helps reduce phytoestrogen breakdown)
(I've done my research on grapefruit juice - it's not going to interact with any pharmaceutical I am taking)
+water dilution to max out waterbottle.
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**Is mixing two Phyo-estrogens going to be an issue? 8-prenylnaringenin is much more attracted to ER-alpha, but it still binds to ER-beta. PM is predominently drawn to ER-beta, so it seems that they might be compimentary as well. Any ideas?

The most PM I used is 2000mg equivalent of extract. And that is only 2 days out of the month. Most times, only about 1500mg. I am a firm believer the best way to hit growth plateaus is to overdue the E, hence my restrictions and 1 week off of anything estrogenic.
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Mixing NBE herbs and fatty acids - by lightwinder - 22-09-2015, 02:23 AM
RE: Mixing NBE herbs and fatty acids - by The First Aria - 22-09-2015, 05:47 PM
RE: Mixing NBE herbs and fatty acids - by lightwinder - 23-09-2015, 11:23 PM
RE: Mixing NBE herbs and fatty acids - by The First Aria - 23-09-2015, 11:33 PM
RE: Mixing NBE herbs and fatty acids - by lightwinder - 23-09-2015, 11:47 PM
RE: Mixing NBE herbs and fatty acids - by The First Aria - 23-09-2015, 11:59 PM
RE: Mixing NBE herbs and fatty acids - by TwoMees - 16-08-2019, 03:26 PM



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