Hi,
sorry me, my is only a proposal, I not have new methods to propose.
The true problem is that there are so much minor methods, so I think is good give space also at this 'other methods' section all togheters.
In the future maybe will be also new methods, so can be useful put at start in 'other methods' section.
The point is not if this methods function or not, but there exist, so with discussion will be possible exchange information and experiences about, this is the spirit of a forum like BreastN[/u]exus.