[AbiDrew85]

Rolf

YOU ARE SIMPLY NOT SERIOUS ????????????????????????????????????

Have you seen the results on here in the photo pages

on HERBAL PM

and you think they are flesh pumped up ?


If so go and look again hard at

stefanie, sfem , tasha, eva , pansy mae, bryony, sexless, etc etc the list is simply to long

sorry if I have missed anyone, just too astonished


Julie

And then there are those like me who are simply fighting waaaaaay too much T and there do not seem to be any anti-androgens in natural chemicals powerful enough to deal with our excess without also coming with a great deal worse side effects than the synthetics used in pharmacological HRT. Without being able to get our T under control, we'll never see the same kind of results that people who don't have such excessive T get from herbals.

I did find two things that seem likely to be exceptions recently, but I can't presently afford to try anything at all anyways, which seems only to be likely to change if the reason I can't use pharma right now changes even sooner, in which case I'll just go pharma because it'll cost less, as in, be essentially free with health coverage, which I'd have soon after getting any decent job, much sooner than I would start getting enough money from paychecks to use for NBE.

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As for the OP, I despise this term every time someone brings it up. It just has so many things wrong with it that I can't even begin to attempt to explain it all. The "theory" was posited by a couple of total quacks that no one serious in psychiatry or psychology has ever taken seriously, and that's all I'm going to say.