(20-02-2016, 07:31 AM)ellacraig Wrote:

(20-02-2016, 07:10 AM)Lotus Wrote:

(20-02-2016, 06:58 AM)ellacraig Wrote: I don't get it? (Stupid blonde here)

I know this veres off what you are working on but do you think there's a definite answer to "do phytoestrogens REPLACE xenoestrogens or do phytos replace but ADD to the overall estrogen load?"

Correction, sexy blond .

Good question, I think the latter quite actually. Say (or use) this is an example, a women with a normal cycle (lol, what's that you say). She takes PM in the first half, now does her estradiol dramatically fall off after (say) day 14-16?........I think not. Calculations of blood E2 levels are still present a week if not longer. Add to this, the daily hidden barrage of xeno's (I'll bet that amount undetermined but still revelant).

Now, doe this women need to add more E in luteal?, I think not (again lol)..........and in the present study above it validates that breast tissue expression of E2 is still quite high when progesterone is added.

Ahh still present a week later... Ok yeh the higher E2 alongside high progesterone bit confused me too?
So it would seem it's a gamble then eh messing around with phytos even if it's just cycling if the effects can last well into luteal?.... Bugger shit and damn....

Bugger is right, =

Maybe NBE can be summoned up this way, women are likely to (when they do) have a slow but steady growth phase, while males seeking breast growth might have bursts of growth. Why exactly?, multiple reasons I suppose, but maybe it's narrowed down or relevant to how GH (growth hormone) is secreted in both sexes via the hypothalamus......female GH release is steady while males are in bursts.

But to your point, the extra E is not needed.