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Lotus   29-01-2021, 04:45 AM
(28-01-2021, 05:01 PM)diometres22 Wrote:
(28-01-2021, 04:23 PM)Alexis P Wrote:

Glad to see a new Lotus post, first time i see one while i registered on this forum.

I have no doubts on the new low risk breast growth plan, of course there are lots of researches about it and Lotus always posts facts, but one thing which has give me questions is the complete absence of any herbal estrogenic source. Isn't it necessary anymore? Is this plan more similar to a pharma hrt program with an hospital doctor or still can be considered NBE? Not sure because those estriol and progesterone cream seems medications which needs a prescription. I'm confused.

Hi Alexis, not sure about Italy/EU, but in the US you can find low-dose Estrogen and Progesterone creams (over the counter, or OTC as Lotus uses above) in pharmacies and online. They are generally lower dose (1-10% the amount of hormone) than what you would get with HRT, designed to help women who are dealing with post-menopausal issues or estrogen dominance. 

Because the doses will be a lot lower than prescription HRT patches, any effects will take a lot longer to be seen. But because its trans-dermal, and estradiol rather than phytoestrogens (as in PM), likely to have fewer side effects (e.g. safer). This one for example, as .5 mg estradiol per pump, while the standard of care for trans HRT is going to be 2-4 mg/day estradiol orally.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DFVL6WD/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_E9QSES9C4KFQXQ2E7E1N

I think the thing to note about creams is the absorbed amount obviously varies based on the amount you apply and where you apply it. From what I’ve seen, the amount contained within creams can vary by 10x. So it’s going to be a lot more judgement and ‘do what feels right’ than with PM or supplements, where the dosage is controlled. That said, the amount of hormone is a lot lower too, so the downside risk of over-applying is probably low.
 

Hi Alexis and diometres, 


Great question Alexis. True, only reishi is herbal. The goal here was to reduce the risk of DVT. While nothing is risk free, I feel this approach can give options to those who want a slow approach. And as I've described in previous posts progesterone cream adds a layer of protection. 

Ultimately, it's best to discuss NBE or HRT with one's physician.

Thank you diometres, I couldn't have said it better myself. Btw, the amazon link you provided is the one I use. For the most part, I try 99% of what I write about.

 Thank you both,  Smile

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