Thanks Kay, that’s what I’ve ordered! I’m digesting this thread and the AntiAndrogen Thread Lotus wrote, and the progression over time for each is really interesting. The main thing I’m seeing is a theme of ‘less is more’ (supplements, not boobs! ?).

I relate that to distance running. Years ago the coaching philosophy was ‘more is better,’ which resulted in speed plateaus, burnout and injuries. Now the common philosophy is a slow progression, hard easy days, and rest periods. Runners still can do 100 mile weeks, just not at race pace every day! In both training and NBE changes are being made to the body that take time!

From everything I’ve read and experienced, a ‘less is more’ philosophy, along with regular breaks,  is key to healthy, long term NBE. We’ll see!

Cheers,

Lisa