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(13-09-2022, 10:04 AM)Siman234 Wrote:  After a lot more thinking about it today as well, I'm very certain it's testosterone and what you're saying is applicable to me, along with some insight that explains it.
Cypro takes a month to reach peach efficacy, and likewise, a month to leave your system. That's very inline with you saying "the symptoms showed up about 2-3 weeks afterwards" for you trying to quit it. For me, this is occurring 3 weeks after quitting it. Every symptom you listed is something I'm going through. Side note, that article I just linked has some good insight for progestogenic effect dosages.
I have a blood test here in a week, so I'm gonna tough it out until then to get an idea of my levels without any suppression, then start 12.5mg every 2 days or 6.25mg every day to bring that back in check. Maybe even 6.25 every 2 days. Cypro seems so effective, that might be enough to take out this last bit of testosterone and DHT.
I mean... lactation doesn't sound like an issue personally. I had been on Cypro for a year though and I wasn't noticing it doing anything adverse or lactate-y. And I do remember you bringing up its progestogenic effects in terms of filling breasts out. But I am still weary of it's really bad side effects and want to err on the side of caution there. Although the risks of meningiomas seem tied to CPA overstimulating progesterone receptors in the brain at higher dosages, the less potential risk factors I can have, the better. It's why I'll be sticking to as low of a dose possible until I could maybe switch over to bica in the next few years if it becomes financially practical. Well... it'd be cheaper to source since I probably wouldn't even need that much bica since there isn't that much testosterone left to suppress.
Weren't there some herbs people were using around here to suppress DHT? Was it Red Peony? White Peony? Been too long to remember.

Anyways, marks on my chest are clearing up, gonna take a break until it seems good to go again.
Also, a follow up to the pituitary and raw female causing weight gain. Yeah, can back you up and say it definitely did. Was on a pretty high caloric diet for months with no gain, as soon as I started the glandular supplements, I shot up five pounds. I quickly cut my intake in half and I seem to have stabilized at 226. I wouldn't mind weighing more for weight cycling but my heels don't like the idea. Once I take a break from glandular I'll probably lose weight back down and then restart and gain it back for a cycle.
 
Re: measurement. Again you might be able to try a mixing bowl if you have one lying around. Maybe a 5 liter one since they're pretty deep and the goal is just to displace water filled to the brim out into another container to then put onto a scale. The other container could be a big tub.

It seems so. My suspicion is that your estrogen levels aren't enough to fully suppress T on their own or otherwise stopping cypro would have had no effect. Cypro indeed has a long half life and the build up and crash both will take time. I think for me it was very apparent around three weeks or so, in line with information I read about it.

I suspect that the progestin like effect it has is very mild on small doses and it doesn't interfere much with bio identical progesterone. Same with how it raises prolactin, its rare to have a problem with that while being on small doses but this seems to be highly individual. 12.5mg and lower should be enough for complete T suppression with tiny chance for any side effects. Of course there are better blockers, but it seems they're all very expensive. I'm on cypro for efficiency and price. I would rather avoid it too if I could but for now its the only viable option.

I used Red Reishi for DHT suppression and it seemed to be very efficient on it. Its also healthy stuff, helps to boost immune system and so on. I have been thinking of taking it on the side just for its health benefits. It curbs DHT but doesn't touch free T.

Glandular therapy really helps with weight gain. Something to keep in mind if planning to try it, just watch you wont over eat, cut down carbs and maybe add some exercise and it should be all fine if you decide to go on with it. From what I've noticed, it seems that pituitary supplement does more about weight gain than bovine ovaries do, but both give a little kick into it. Since spring, I've been able to lose some weight despite being on glandulars which is really nice. Its been slower than I anticipated but it can obviously be done. Weight cycling is something to look into, it seems to be helpful with fat distribution.
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Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 18-10-2021, 07:54 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Heaven's Night - 18-10-2021, 08:16 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 18-10-2021, 11:25 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 19-10-2021, 09:25 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 29-10-2021, 11:41 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Heaven's Night - 30-10-2021, 12:57 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 31-10-2021, 11:15 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 01-11-2021, 10:42 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 05-11-2021, 11:56 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Heaven's Night - 06-11-2021, 10:19 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 06-11-2021, 08:05 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 07-11-2021, 10:55 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 09-11-2021, 10:01 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 13-11-2021, 08:54 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 27-11-2021, 06:32 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 30-11-2021, 02:04 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 02-12-2021, 01:52 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 03-01-2022, 10:25 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 08-06-2022, 06:42 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 15-06-2022, 07:13 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Heaven's Night - 15-06-2022, 08:31 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 15-06-2022, 07:33 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Heaven's Night - 15-06-2022, 08:15 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 01-09-2022, 09:55 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Heaven's Night - 02-09-2022, 12:04 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 03-09-2022, 02:17 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Heaven's Night - 03-09-2022, 10:12 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 05-09-2022, 11:14 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Heaven's Night - 06-09-2022, 10:23 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 11-09-2022, 10:04 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 11-09-2022, 10:53 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Heaven's Night - 11-09-2022, 12:07 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 11-09-2022, 11:00 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Heaven's Night - 12-09-2022, 08:43 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 12-09-2022, 10:42 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Heaven's Night - 13-09-2022, 07:38 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 13-09-2022, 10:04 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Heaven's Night - 13-09-2022, 11:14 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 14-09-2022, 08:20 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Lotus - 12-09-2022, 02:33 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Heaven's Night - 12-09-2022, 02:55 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 20-09-2022, 10:27 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 23-09-2022, 10:25 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Heaven's Night - 24-09-2022, 06:54 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 23-10-2022, 11:18 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Heaven's Night - 24-10-2022, 08:22 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 24-10-2022, 11:58 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Heaven's Night - 25-10-2022, 09:38 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 27-10-2022, 10:07 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 27-10-2022, 11:08 PM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 04-11-2022, 04:22 AM
RE: Progress Journal: Extra Data on MSM/Tictures - by Siman234 - 10-11-2022, 02:30 AM



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