[Heaven's Night]

Gonna start with responding to the latter part of the message and the stress around others, and say, thanks for getting it. I don't want to come off as implying I'm mad or jealous of others, and that's it more of a personal frustration with myself... and I appreciate the feeling is mutually understood.
I admit I worried a lot after sending that because I felt it came off pretty abrasive and there's always a bit of anxiety worrying you'll have someone tell you "you're just jealous." I find the mutual understanding very refreshing though, and... yeah. It's important to remember that anyone can be and reserves the right to be upset with where they're at, as long as they understand others are too.
I appreciate you sharing as much info and help as you do here, because looking through your thread is a bit much for me.

Oh such a long post. It will take a while to reply all this.... And I hear you, people who speak about jealousy and such or preach self acceptance typically do not understand a first thing about how dysphoria works. There is no logic and it has nothing to do with being jealous, I know this so well, some people and things just are triggering and its horrible as there is no off switch to it. For myself, the only thing that is helping is fixing my body. And then some internal work on top of it as I lack confidence and sense of self worth.

Awwh if it hurts, just skip it. I don't ever want to upset people or trigger their dysphoria, that's the worst that can happen. I rather want to inspire and help if I can.

The most interesting thing that happened, and the part that may be helping me the most, might have been spurred on by complete accident. I skimmed over it in my last post, but I'll elaborate more.
The fallout from me quitting Cypro, T getting back into my system, and DHT messing everything up for a while... might have actually helped?
As soon as I felt my body switch back over to mainly estrogen, as my new Cypro dose ramped up, I felt that strong, almost painful chest soreness I had only felt during my last growth spurt come back. Now it's too early to say if this is the start of another one, but it feels just like it. I hadn't felt this soreness since my last bout of growth.
This is something that's talked about on the /HRTGen/ guide that I can't find the link for any more, hrt.cafe is down at the moment.
It mentions if breast growth does stall, to cycle your estrogen down, or even out entirely. Mentioning receptor desensitization and downregulation. Now the side effects this does instill on someone are... rough, to say the least. The dysphoria from my body starting male body tendencies again was rough, and I also suddenly got ingrown hairs and skin issues from my body being confused what to do. It's probably better to leave an AA on while just reducing estrogen for a bit, but I think in a nice accidental series of events, this may have coaxed my chest out of a stall.

Again, far too early to say since I now measure smaller now due to weight loss, but that feeling is special and has only accompanied growing periods for me. It's very possible taking a break from estrogen, either using a bit less, or taking a break completely, can break breast growth stalls. I only went T-dominant in my system for about 3 weeks. Shows how fast you could reset receptors. Hope your friend can figure something out though. Maybe this might be an avenue worth looking into, if the side effects aren't too terribly bad.

Yes, receptor reset is a really a thing and I think there are several ways to do it! Even stopping NBE/supplements can help or a complete stop with everything if nothing else works. Its not guaranteed, but very often what makes boobs grow and all other body changes kick in is to "shock" our bodies in some way which could mean a minor change to your program. I have noticed that almost every time I change something, I get a growth spurt or at least notice itch/ache/sensitivity go up, or just a difference in pictures or who my bras fit. So this is something to keep in mind in case you get stuck, even minor change might do a difference.

It's worth noting while I was going through the messy AA period, I did take a break from all supplements, so piling them back on now may also be increasing their efficacy. I've only been on one of the glandular pills each day due to concerns about bloating, but may get back on two a day as I speak.

On the topics of the glandulars, while I did see significantly faster weight gain when on them, I was eating a lot at the time. And now, I've been able to drop ten pounds while still on them, meaning while it is a modifier, it definitely doesn't seem like it controls your weight in a way you can't compensate for. Only seeming to put more on when you're eating in excess. I do need to start eating more again though, now that my chest seems to be needing it. I'm also in a spot to gain back ten pounds to cycle once more, for fat redistribution. (hips are still frustratingly small)

I did also switch from Raw Female to Swanson Ovarian Glandular for Bovine Ovary, since Raw Female is out over here.

Yes, I will also switch entirely on Swanson for BO once my stock of Raw Fem runs out. It appears that Natural Sources company has gone out of business. And about weight gain and loss, I have had both during being on glandular therapy. I think it has made weight gain much easier than before, but I have been able to slim down some too without changing my program, just with eating less carbs and exercising more than before. Its good to know when weight cycling. This stuff helps with gaining.

Started doing Noogle again, and frustratingly, the same skin conditions I noticed developing last time before I took that break instantly popped up again. In the exact same spots too, and I'm far from getting to -0.2 bar still. So for now, I'm going to be trying to do two 15 minute sessions at a lower pressure per day, to try to strengthen the skin up and not put too much pressure on them all at once. Slowly get back into it. I've been sparse with Noogling and the longest I was able to keep it up daily was for about 3 weeks or so. Hoping I can build into longer and more consistent sessions.

The optimal pressure is just slightly below -0,2 bar, its right at -5 inHg. I started to never exceed this pressure and go most of the time slightly below. There's a difference on how the pressure behaves depending on how much of the domes you fill, usually more there is air, more harsh it is so the trick is to use less pressure. The optimal is said to be the best, but less also works so do it the way you wont hurt yourself. Melissa for example did lower pressure for a very long time until recently and she has had massive growth spurt going on, with pump obviously doing its part so the pressure isn't written in stone.

I hope the progesterone helps you, for me its been a big game changer. Lately trying out the cream has been very interesting and I think its doing its job.

About measuring volume, you should just measure horizontal and vertical from the edge of the breast root to the other and then multiply the numbers together to get approx ccs, that's the easiest way to it. The hard part is to have it accurate because telling where exactly the breast root ends might be a bit difficult. I've noted this is becoming easier with time, more projected and big your boobs get, more accurate the volume reading will be. When you know which cup size you fill up nicely and its a good fit, then using a size chart which shows volumes can give you an idea where your measuring is correct. Just remember how bra manufacturers have their own standards, but when you compare back and forth enough, you will get it quite close to what you have.

I will attach a sister size chart here, it uses UK cup sizes, but for that I'll add another chart on how to accurately convert sizes, both band lengths and cups.