(16-07-2023, 01:12 AM)p_r_1974 Wrote: The progress with the DHEA+P4 along with the Bi-Est  and others seems quite impressive. And I am quite happy that y'all have had such progress! I seem to remember posts about tanner stage requirements for optimal results though, but I do not recall where.

With this being the apparent game changing process it sounds like, my question above is most likely irrelevant.