(23-01-2024, 06:27 PM)Karen Hart Wrote: I do believe that BO has permanently converted my hormones to estrogen dominant. This is sometimes referred to as "flipping the switch". Once flipped, there is no going back to T-dominance.

IMHO, the next best herb is Fenugreek. Many good stories of success with it and it worked for me, early in my experimentation.
However, if I were just starting this today, I would go a different route... bio-identical creams as a source for estrogen and progesterone.

Hi Karen.
I don't think I'll personally ever be brave enough to try BO, but I am interested to know what biologically makes it do that permanent hormone switch. For... science!

Would you grade Fenugreek as better than PM?

The bio-identical creams for estrogen... the only ones I could find in the UK (without going to HRT) was estriol, which I thought was Estriol (or maybe that's what that specific cream has, since it's the only one here that could be bought without HRT?), which doesnt seem to do much for breast growth.

I've used some Wild Yam progersterone cream, not sure if it helped or did anything, I dont use it often, so cant comment.