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PM gives you a possible DVT(blood clotting) risk, BO does not from my experience. Even on high end of sensible dosing, there seems to be no real side effects, but plenty of body changes. Note that I'm taking BO on side of convnetional HRT and other supplements.

PM is weak in comparison, but it seems to give boobs the most rather than over all feminisation. BO gives everything on fat distribution, it loads up lower body with gynoid fat, it makes breasts grow but it also makes weight gain very easy, maybe ven difficult to control.

BO works on as low dose as 500mg, but 1500mg per day is said to be optimal. I'm currently on 1950mg and not willing to go higher as its likely not needed. But every time I've went on higher dose, the effects have been faster and more prominent. So far zero side effects, but there was someone who noted higer than normal blood pressure while on it. Its likely stemming from something else as I haven't noted anything and I'm prone to elevated BP. BO is a shot in a dark, some benefit a lot, few more benefit some and some people get nothing out of it. There's only one way to find out.

Good starting dose on BO is 500mg, that's two capsules on Swanson brand. Which at the moment seems to be the only affordable one available. Then you can slowly increase 250mg at a time and cap the dose at 1000-1500mg or so. More likely wont do a huge difference. Take kelp or other iodine supplement with it, there's a thing about body temperature people have noted time and again but I'm not sure if its necessary. Taking iodine is a good idea anyway for thyroid health.

 I agree. It seems like pm has way more risks than bo, granted the risks of bo are feminization all over that some could say is permanent (obviously no real proof or studies on the matter) just seems to be the general consensus from person to person, and everyone is different and alot comes into play (is age, weight, genetics, other health issues etc). 

I am just trying to gather all information that everyone has learn about BO thus far and try to compile it into one thread. Vs beginners trying to spend hours of research and most likely not being able to find answers since this site is pretty daunting trying to navigate it. Lol. 

I really do appreciate everyone's input and first hand experience.