[Heaven's Night]

Seconded what Caylee said. Firstly, HRT should not be toyed with, there's no way to choose which changes it does as it does everything. With PM etc., its usually not quite the same and they're absolutely ineffective by comparison already because without blocking, testosterone dominance will overwhelm the weak herbs easily.

Its all or nothing deal, I see way too many guys here dreaming about somehow being functional as a guy and getting feminine body proportions at the same time, I've said it many times that its just not how it works. Our bodies don't function like that. So stuff like herbal NBE, pumping, even plastic surgery is a thing for anyone who wants to pick and choose what to get. HRT gives it all, takes ages, lot of times the change can be disappointingly slow or just not good enough on its own. This is why I try to arrange plastic surgery to go the extra mile on top of what HRT does. And this is why I did noogling like crazy at one point because my dysphoria is so much centered around boobs and body proportions.

I think HRT is fantastic continuation for NBE, it seems like what ever was gained before is just giving a headstart and doesn't interfere with the development later on. Unless receptors have been absolutely fried to hell and back with truckloads of PM or other such newbie mistake of course.