[bryony]

Hello,
Every bit of info helps. To be clear, I was speaking of Cyproterone Acetate, an anti-androgen. I abbreviated it a bit. Sorry for the confusion. I agree, age has a great effect on a great many things. I also give credit to the various anti-andros that I have tried. The fellas have decidely decreased in size, and occasionally have to be prodded to come out of hiding. A year and a half ago, this wasn't the case.
I hadn't intended to have it checked, wouldn't quite have known how to ask without seeming to admit to some sort of problem. However, glad she did. Now it's not on me, and I can feel free to brush it off.
You are correct, SP simply stops the conversion to DHT. At the T level I have, it's probably not a concern. By the way, at my age, 61, a level between 200-300 is considered hypogonadal, and thus the requirement for the doc to give me "counseling". Perhaps I should get the shots, so there would be more T to be converted to E? But, it would probably be synthetic, and would it convert the same? At a level of 20, I wonder how big the syringe would be to bring it up. 1/2 Liter?? PJ

You might want to consider the other 'wonder' thai herb, Butea Superba.

I'm waiting to hear back from Ainterol about the advisability (or not) of taking it with PM.

I have seen research papers which have found that, whereas it has no effect on T levels on orchiectomies, it did have an effect where the T-production organs were present, and it did have an effect on E.D. patients. The theory in the conclusion was that it worked synergistically with the T-production mechanism to cause levels to raise.

The advantage is that it is natural, coming from a root used by the Thai people for generations, so bad effects would be well known.

(What is it about Thai vegetation?)

If you are interested, I can dig out the reference.

B.