[flamesabers]

I'm not sure if or when I'm going to up the ante to PM, but I'd like to get some notable progress without it first. I'm going to at least try to get stage 2 before bringing in the strong stuff. Have a nice hormonal baseline.

I find it interesting that you say this. The reason why I switched to PM was because I felt I wasn't getting noticeable progress with the other herbs.

I wish you good luck with getting stage to 2. You may have more success (or maybe more patience) with the non-PM herbs than I did.