[AbiDrew85]

if you're taking fenugreek, red clover, sal palmetto and maca can you take the maximum dose on the bottle or should you take less because of the effects of the other herbs you're taking?

Actually, you will, in general, be using MORE than the max dose as stated on the bottles. We're using these herbs for other purposes than originally intended, purposes that require more oomph than the intended purposes.

For example, the original purpose of saw palmetto was to treat BPH, a prostatic disorder, the men who are trying to treat this disorder do not wish to block the 90+% possible DHT that SP can get up to, so they generally do not take more than 320 mg of standardized extract. But some of us DO want to, or at least more than what the minimal dosing recommended for BPH is. For that over 90% reduction, you want to be taking over 640mg, and quite possibly up to 1280mg depending on your existing T level, for ~50%, you want between 320-640, depending on existing T level, the recommended dose on the bottle is for BPH, which is intended for around 25% reduction in DHT.

Depending on your T levels, you may want to go anywhere from no DHT reduction and therefore no SP to a 50% reduction in DHT from 320-640mg SP. This is to attempt to prevent DHT from blocking the effects of the estrogens, but not to reduce it to the point where we aren't producing sperm, which is your stated goal.