[AbiDrew85]

if i did go for those four herbs what doses would you recommend then? as mentioned, i've already started using fenugreek 610mg capsules and have been taking the two capsules three times a day recommended on the bottle. any recommendations as to a decent cocktail of those four to get things moving without messing things up down below will be much appreciated?

I am going to direct you to someone's program thread that's already using such a program, I'll be linking directly to the post where she lays out her current plan, since she's genetically female, I believe her current dosing most probably should not render you sterile (also, she's using the 640mg dose I've already suggested as your max for SP). She's also a PCOS sufferer, so I feel that her dosing should be sufficiently strong enough to get you going.

Anyways:

http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=12211&pid=59636#pid59636

I do not feel you should buy the two items she's got listed as not reordering. Those are just things she's trying but doesn't feel are doing anything/enough to warrant buying again. You also might not need the progesterone cream, though I do think you should order some, just in case you do end up needing it.

She is planning on switching to PM because she's decided she wants to try something even stronger, but yeah...

BTW... A PM-based plan could still work for you. A lot of guys are on PM only and taking around 1500-2000mg without sterility problems. Others are taking as much as 320mg SP without sterility problems.