[bryony]

And my definition of natural does not involve being OTC or readily available and I'm not naive enough to believe anything is "not dangerous".

Yes, well I suppose potatoes are dangerous if you eat enough of them, and certainly carrots are too. That's about the level of risk you have with PM compared to unsupervised DIY hormones. The degrees of freedom differ hugely.

There's been discussion lately about the drugs (both legal and my own definition in this case) for anti-t... THAT is something *I* disagree with. Yet IIRC, you didn't complain at all about them discussing those.

I was remiss. I'm concerned about those too. They don't belong in a natural breast enlargement discussion either. I'm glad that you appear to agree! A shame you don't feel the same way about DIY Pharm.

Maybe Eve would be willing to create a separate sub-forum for DIY Hormone/Anti-hormone experimenters.

In deference to the OP I'll shut up now... it never seems to do any good anyway.

B.