First a complaint, then some on topic thoughts.
I am seeing an increase in this information age disease which I do not know the name for (Baffler's Syndrome anyone?), but is characterized by the presenting of surmise and guesswork as if it were fact as then using it as the basis for further speculation, deduction, and argument support. It drives me nuts. It turns otherwise trustworthy and worthwhile individuals into background noise over time. If you believe something to be true, but don't know it for a fact, please say so. The suggested syndrome acronym is significant and a label no-one wants to acquire. I'm not pointing this at anyone, but I have recently crossed my threshold for ignoring it.
For myself, I am becoming interested in progesterone because I am at a stage of boobie development where I am wondering if it may be beneficial. In past posts on this forum there have been comments made that progesterone is useful in the final stages of breast maturation. These comments seem to be linked to the idea that progesterone becomes more significant in women as they change during pregnancy, and therefore is implicated in the last stages of breast development. I don't want to lactate but I do want the last stages of shape and nipple development. I probably can't have it both ways, but I haven't given up hope. I'm quite unsure of the details on this likely because I wasn't near that stage when these posts were made. Quite possibly I even saw them on the old network54 site, I just don't recall. So anyway I have been trying to gather a bit of information about whether I should try it. I know we are generally big fans of "give it a try and let us know" in this group but I still want to know a bit more about it first if I can find anything solid. So I have been asking a bit for anecdotal evidence here and doing some light searching online for information of a credible nature. I thought this thread might indeed be a good one for me because Bryony is usually good at stirring the pot to get the discussion mixing and to call bullshit where it is found. But so far there doesn't seem to be much real information forthcoming, just our usual speculations and hints of Baffler's Syndrome. So here goes my results of an admittedly limited amount of research on progesterone. Please remember I am not an academic, and it is up to you to evaluate the validity of the info in these links. I do not want anyone to think I have read these from cover to cover, or even understood everything I did read in them. But I think they have relevant info in them and their references may be helpful although many of them are surprisingly aged.
Progesterone inhibits DHT in men to some extent.
http://www.cenegenicsfoundation.org/library/library_files/Inhibition_of_Testosterone_Conversion_to_Dihydrotestosterone_in_Men_Treated_Percutaneously_by_Progesterone.pdf
Progesterone may lower libido and reduce anxiety in men.
http://thinksteroids.com/articles/contrarian-endocrinology-estrogen-men/
Progesterone is used as part of a chemical castration agent for men.
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejm199704033361420
"progesterone causes increased terminal duct lobular unit cell division in the luteal phase" - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8405201
"prolactin has gynaecomastia-inducing properties" - http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1439-0272.2011.01240.x/abstract
And there are many more that aren't tedious to find, but maybe these can get us started. Also, more than you ever wanted to know about the breast can be found in Rook's Textbook of Dermatology - http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9781444317633.ch70/summary if you are desirous of tmi.
The King vs. Leder studies comparison suggests to me that maybe we are missing a bet by not trying taking our entire shot of PM at once daily, first thing in the morning. Does anyone else think that might be rational? Anyone tried that approach with a large dose (>1g) long enough (more than a week) to tell if it makes a difference?
I am seeing an increase in this information age disease which I do not know the name for (Baffler's Syndrome anyone?), but is characterized by the presenting of surmise and guesswork as if it were fact as then using it as the basis for further speculation, deduction, and argument support. It drives me nuts. It turns otherwise trustworthy and worthwhile individuals into background noise over time. If you believe something to be true, but don't know it for a fact, please say so. The suggested syndrome acronym is significant and a label no-one wants to acquire. I'm not pointing this at anyone, but I have recently crossed my threshold for ignoring it.
For myself, I am becoming interested in progesterone because I am at a stage of boobie development where I am wondering if it may be beneficial. In past posts on this forum there have been comments made that progesterone is useful in the final stages of breast maturation. These comments seem to be linked to the idea that progesterone becomes more significant in women as they change during pregnancy, and therefore is implicated in the last stages of breast development. I don't want to lactate but I do want the last stages of shape and nipple development. I probably can't have it both ways, but I haven't given up hope. I'm quite unsure of the details on this likely because I wasn't near that stage when these posts were made. Quite possibly I even saw them on the old network54 site, I just don't recall. So anyway I have been trying to gather a bit of information about whether I should try it. I know we are generally big fans of "give it a try and let us know" in this group but I still want to know a bit more about it first if I can find anything solid. So I have been asking a bit for anecdotal evidence here and doing some light searching online for information of a credible nature. I thought this thread might indeed be a good one for me because Bryony is usually good at stirring the pot to get the discussion mixing and to call bullshit where it is found. But so far there doesn't seem to be much real information forthcoming, just our usual speculations and hints of Baffler's Syndrome. So here goes my results of an admittedly limited amount of research on progesterone. Please remember I am not an academic, and it is up to you to evaluate the validity of the info in these links. I do not want anyone to think I have read these from cover to cover, or even understood everything I did read in them. But I think they have relevant info in them and their references may be helpful although many of them are surprisingly aged.
Progesterone inhibits DHT in men to some extent.
http://www.cenegenicsfoundation.org/library/library_files/Inhibition_of_Testosterone_Conversion_to_Dihydrotestosterone_in_Men_Treated_Percutaneously_by_Progesterone.pdf
Progesterone may lower libido and reduce anxiety in men.
http://thinksteroids.com/articles/contrarian-endocrinology-estrogen-men/
Progesterone is used as part of a chemical castration agent for men.
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejm199704033361420
"progesterone causes increased terminal duct lobular unit cell division in the luteal phase" - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8405201
"prolactin has gynaecomastia-inducing properties" - http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1439-0272.2011.01240.x/abstract
And there are many more that aren't tedious to find, but maybe these can get us started. Also, more than you ever wanted to know about the breast can be found in Rook's Textbook of Dermatology - http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9781444317633.ch70/summary if you are desirous of tmi.
The King vs. Leder studies comparison suggests to me that maybe we are missing a bet by not trying taking our entire shot of PM at once daily, first thing in the morning. Does anyone else think that might be rational? Anyone tried that approach with a large dose (>1g) long enough (more than a week) to tell if it makes a difference?