sfem,
I totally agree about vague thoughts and ideas that become 'facts' due to repetition on the 'net', so I have to say that much of what I'm about to say here is either theory or my personal experience, not scientific fact!
My views on progesterone have modified slightly recently, but in extended detail not in basic substance.
It is a fact that GG's only start to produce it part-way through the puberty process and its effect as far as we are concerned is to round out the triangular shape of a teenage breast, and on that basis it is pointless taking prog until you've got something to round out! (I also have an unsubstantiated theory that it also stops the estrogen-fuelled underlying structure development) .
I've tried prog cream ( USP nature identical) twice, at different times and it didnt do anything noticeable. I'm not sure why, it could have been that it was too soon ( i.e not enough basic tissue to expand) or it could have been that I didn't do it for long enough, or it could have been
that I wasnt using enough or that it wasn't penetrating well enough.
It is very difficult to be consistent with the amount of cream that you scoop out of a pot!
However going back to basics, as we know, there is no natural herbal-type source of progesterone. There are synthetic progestins which have potential health issues, or there is nature-identical USP progesterone which is factory made. However, progesterone itself does not readily pass through the stomach wall and therefore the only way of getting it into the body is via a topical cream - or has been until relatively recently. About 18months ago(?), just before she disappeared, JulieTG was talking about Micronised Progesterone ( Microgest) which I'd never herad of at the time. However on investigating, this is nature-identical USP progesterone sprayed in to peanut oil in a form which does allow it to pass through the gut wall. Now I know that at that time, the debate got very heated about the dangers ingesting something which was 'unproven' and came from a pharmaceutical company, but speaking personally I see no difference between puttting it on your skin to be absorbed into the bloodstream, or putting it into your stomach to be absorbed, it's no different to ingesting PM or applying it as a cream, in my mind.
So, on that basis, at the end of last year I tried the Microgest. It took about a month before I noticed anything but then the change was quite noticeable quite quickly and I think that was behind the sudden spurt that I saw in early January. I could certainly feel it, there was definite increase in 'touch sensation' at the top inner side of both breasts, i.e it felt as though the gap was beginning to close to start to give proper cleavage. Conversely, I suspect that this is part of the dramatic size reduction when I stopped taking both PM and Microgest in mid-Jan. What I dont know is whether the volume reduction was because the prog contribution to my volume was new and hadn't 'set' or if it is always prone to disappear quickly if the source is removed - I suspect a bit of both.
I definitely plan to restart the MIcrogest but I'm wanting to get the PM growth feelings restarted first.
Hope this helps, but as always these are just my thoughts.
I totally agree about vague thoughts and ideas that become 'facts' due to repetition on the 'net', so I have to say that much of what I'm about to say here is either theory or my personal experience, not scientific fact!
My views on progesterone have modified slightly recently, but in extended detail not in basic substance.
It is a fact that GG's only start to produce it part-way through the puberty process and its effect as far as we are concerned is to round out the triangular shape of a teenage breast, and on that basis it is pointless taking prog until you've got something to round out! (I also have an unsubstantiated theory that it also stops the estrogen-fuelled underlying structure development) .
I've tried prog cream ( USP nature identical) twice, at different times and it didnt do anything noticeable. I'm not sure why, it could have been that it was too soon ( i.e not enough basic tissue to expand) or it could have been that I didn't do it for long enough, or it could have been
that I wasnt using enough or that it wasn't penetrating well enough.
It is very difficult to be consistent with the amount of cream that you scoop out of a pot!
However going back to basics, as we know, there is no natural herbal-type source of progesterone. There are synthetic progestins which have potential health issues, or there is nature-identical USP progesterone which is factory made. However, progesterone itself does not readily pass through the stomach wall and therefore the only way of getting it into the body is via a topical cream - or has been until relatively recently. About 18months ago(?), just before she disappeared, JulieTG was talking about Micronised Progesterone ( Microgest) which I'd never herad of at the time. However on investigating, this is nature-identical USP progesterone sprayed in to peanut oil in a form which does allow it to pass through the gut wall. Now I know that at that time, the debate got very heated about the dangers ingesting something which was 'unproven' and came from a pharmaceutical company, but speaking personally I see no difference between puttting it on your skin to be absorbed into the bloodstream, or putting it into your stomach to be absorbed, it's no different to ingesting PM or applying it as a cream, in my mind.
So, on that basis, at the end of last year I tried the Microgest. It took about a month before I noticed anything but then the change was quite noticeable quite quickly and I think that was behind the sudden spurt that I saw in early January. I could certainly feel it, there was definite increase in 'touch sensation' at the top inner side of both breasts, i.e it felt as though the gap was beginning to close to start to give proper cleavage. Conversely, I suspect that this is part of the dramatic size reduction when I stopped taking both PM and Microgest in mid-Jan. What I dont know is whether the volume reduction was because the prog contribution to my volume was new and hadn't 'set' or if it is always prone to disappear quickly if the source is removed - I suspect a bit of both.
I definitely plan to restart the MIcrogest but I'm wanting to get the PM growth feelings restarted first.
Hope this helps, but as always these are just my thoughts.