[MonikaT]

Hi Monika,

I've seen that list of complaints, and I really don't buy it. When you have that many, and the causes can all be pinned down to one problem, which, surprise, surprise can be cured by the application of a product which the author's website conveniently sells, my sceptic bone starts to throb somewhat.

Call me a cynic, curmedgeon or what-not, but I'm only surprised the list does not contain housemaid's knee and tennis elbow...

B.

While I admit the list is long and varied, is it really any worse than the lists of potential side effects that medications can have? Given how each person is bio-chemically different, it is perfectly reasonable that different people will display a different, potentially-overlapping subset of symptoms. Notice that some of the symptoms from that list are also the same as those for estrogen deficiency. I think the takeaway from that thread is this:

If the symptoms you have are all the ** ones (shared by both conditions) then you are probably estrogen dominant -normal estrogen with low progesterone.

If you have a lot of the top list and not many of the ** ones then your are probably estrogen dominant -high estrogen with insufficient progesterone.

If you have a lot of the bottom list but also have some ** or also a lot of the top list then you are probably estrogen dominant- low estrogen and even lower progesterone.

If you have mostly bottom list and nothing from the top list but the ** then you are probably estrogen deficient.

The only way to be more certain than this is to have your hormones tested. Your results for all hormone testing will be influenced by what day of your cycle you are tested on. Your estrogen and progesterone levels constantly rise and fall n your cycle.

As I pointed out previously, the issue is often a matter of the ratio of E and PG, just as a male who isn't playing with his hormones can have low, but normal T and high, but normal E, and have symptoms that point toward low T, but until the doctor actually chooses to look at E, the guy suffers needlessly because the ratio is off.