[Marina Kits]

I would like to chime in with my experience of using pm (but not sp) for a year.

Erections are still possible for me, however I have to be in the mood to get aroused. Thankfully, erections no longer come at a drop of a hat for me. If I lose focus and get distracted, the desire and erection quickly fades away. Every once in awhile my sex drive seems to spike suddenly, but otherwise I mostly have the mood of indifference towards sex, porn, mastrubation, etc. Pre-NBE days, ejaculation was the most pleasurable part for me. Now it's the stimulation and build-up that I like the most.

I concur with all that you've said about PM Flamesabers. Both my wife and I are thoroughly enjoying the less irritable, more graceful and loving person that it makes me. Even WITHOUT telling her I went off PM over Easter weekend, she picked up on the change in my demeanor right away. Like you, the need to satisfy myself by masturbation and porn has all but disappeared and for me, the need to "finish" during intimacy has decreased as well much to the delight of my wife. It has become very loving and and all about pleasing her since going on PM. And strangely, when I DON'T finish, I find myself doting over her for days afterwards but not at all in a lustful way. It sure is nice to be rid of that damn, over-the-top sex drive! I'm just a better person on PM.

Doodlebug, maybe just taking pm without sp may be the way for you to pursue NBE and have still a sexual relationship with your spouse?

Well, that's what I WAS doing and everything seemed to be "working" fine so going back to it wont be a problem. I'm going to monitor and reduce or drop the SP as needed so I can keep my wife happy ...which makes me happy. Thanks!