30-11-2013, 09:25 AM
(26-11-2013, 02:35 AM)MyNewGyrlz Wrote: Propylene glycol is only slightly more poisonous than water according the the msds. The LD50 for PG is between 18,000mg/Kg to 21,000mg/Kg depending on whether it is a rat or rabbit tested. Water is usually just listed as >90mg/Kg in the msds, but you can find studies that have seen LD50's at arount 25,000mg/Kg for rats.
In other words, LD50 is Lethal Dose 50% of the time. So to be lethal, I would have to take around 20,000mg X my body weight of 84Kg or 1,680,000 mg of propylene glycol at a time to have a 50% chance of lethal side effects. Considering I inhale about 4mg a week, I think I'll be all right.
Propylene glycol is considered to be a food safe additive and is used extensively as a medical inhaler for various drugs, if it was as poisonous as you scare mongers seem to think, I think the FDA would be cracking down on the eCigarette's, but they aren't.
I do know that it is an effective delivery method, I have been taking it this way for a few months and have seen significant progress, although at my current concentration (50% concentrate and 50% 24mg/L nicotine PG) there is too much Ainterol concentrate to hit it often enough to satisfy my nicotine cravings (a typical smoker needs about 3ml of 12-14mg/L PG a day), so I am still smoking regular cigarettes. My next batch I'll cut the concentration of ainterol down so I can hit the nicotine laced pg more often.
Well, Hell, if you're going to follow this train of stupidity.... drink bleach to clean your colon.
The FDA ALWAYS has YOU in mind NOT their profits from the fuckers paying them.
What I'm telling you is FACT!! Propylene Glycol IS POISON!! If it's in your food or used as an additive STOP EATING/USING THAT SHIT!! I'm not trying to be a fear monger.... not trying to scare anyone..... trying to educate/help, nothing more...
In liquid form PG is safe for the most part in small doses.... but inhaled? You're playing with fire.
It must be safe if it's in your e-cigs now that commercials make real cigs out to be poison right? Why do you think you have sweet smelling/tasting "water vapor"? Antifreeze has a sweet smell AND taste.... has a smoke vapor around 180-225 degrees....Think.... PLEASE.... Use your brain, ask questions, think.... do some research.... They are from the SAME companies....
I don't care if you don't like me.... If I make you think even for 1 minute about anything or even make you want to research something.... I'm good with that.
I never meant to "steal" this post.... but if people read this and understand this than I'm happy. I wish you ALL the best.
~Jenny~

