[GoneGirl]

Lotus, what AA do/did you use?

I'm personally looking for something more effective than SP/Spearmint.

SP works on the DHT for me but I have to take such high doses that it causes stomach problems and migraines, Spearmint helps and calms some leftover stomach issues I have from problems caused by a Antibiotic Overdose (via a DR). but I again have to take it (tea form) more often than I would prefer.

My body is oddly very efficient at creating DHT.

I think Abi had similar issues (something like a furry patch, I can't remember). If there was something out there that solves Aromatase/excess DHT I'd invest in that sucker, lol. Sure there a few options (spiro) ?? White peony, although the extract seems to be somewhat effective I don't think it overtakes that beast, maybe 40%, I dunno.

There's got to be a stronger WP or similar?? product out there that can keep Aromatase flipped on so to speak, just haven't found it yet.

Lenneth, I don't know if your ready for it, but the medicine given to stop male pattern baldness and BPH is an anti-androgen that targets DHT. Sarah, Eva and I all take 5 mg of finasteride daily. Oops, my mistake, Eva takes 0.25 mg of dutasteride. Does it work? Jury is still out for me, but these things take time, so I'm staying with it.

Clara

[Lenneth]

Lotus, what AA do/did you use?

I'm personally looking for something more effective than SP/Spearmint.

SP works on the DHT for me but I have to take such high doses that it causes stomach problems and migraines, Spearmint helps and calms some leftover stomach issues I have from problems caused by a Antibiotic Overdose (via a DR). but I again have to take it (tea form) more often than I would prefer.

My body is oddly very efficient at creating DHT.

I think Abi had similar issues (something like a furry patch, I can't remember). If there was something out there that solves Aromatase/excess DHT I'd invest in that sucker, lol. Sure there a few options (spiro) ?? White peony, although the extract seems to be somewhat effective I don't think it overtakes that beast, maybe 40%, I dunno.

There's got to be a stronger WP or similar?? product out there that can keep Aromatase flipped on so to speak, just haven't found it yet.

Lenneth, I don't know if your ready for it, but the medicine given to stop male pattern baldness and BPH is an anti-androgen that targets DHT. Sarah, Eva and I all take 5 mg of finasteride daily. Oops, my mistake, Eva takes 0.25 mg of dutasteride. Does it work? Jury is still out for me, but these things take time, so I'm staying with it.

Clara

Dunno about taking Synthetics, I might be more open to it if my Relitives were more open minded, but as things stand.....well you probably get the picture...

[Lotus]

I like this diagram:





And this pathway: (my kind of "who has your favorite" stuff, lol)

   

[Lotus]

Here's the pathway of DHEA:

Pattern?, defo yes!!

   

[GoneGirl]

I like this diagram:





And this pathway: (my kind of "who has your favorite" stuff, lol)

Lotus, can you give an example of an aromatase inhibitor (AI)? I believe they are important for body builders who take extra T to build muscle and don't want to grow breasts because of the estrogen creating action of aromatase.

Clara

[Lotus]

I like this diagram:





And this pathway: (my kind of "who has your favorite" stuff, lol)

Lotus, can you give an example of an aromatase inhibitor (AI)? I believe they are important for body builders who take extra T to build muscle and don't want to grow breasts because of the estrogen creating action of aromatase.

Clara

Sure,

There are 2 types of aromatase inhibitors (AIs) approved to treat breast cancer:

Irreversible steroidal inhibitors, such as exemestane (Aromasin), forms a permanent and deactivating bond with the aromatase enzyme.

Non-steroidal inhibitors, such as anastrozole (Arimidex) and letrozole (Femara), inhibit the synthesis of estrogen via reversible competition for the aromatase enzyme.

Plants have substances that have potential aromatase inhibiting activity. Some of these include flavonoids, for instance quercetin, chrysin, naringenin, apigenin, and Genistein. Not enough human research is available to determine which of the flavonoids or other substances found in plants are the most effective aromatase inhibitors. As a general rule, it is preferable to ingest a variety of flavonoids rather than focusing on only one or two although it is possible that in the treatment of a particular medical condition a specific natural aromatase inhibitor may be more effective.

(Genistein, Quercetin, PM coactives)


Aromatase inhibitor side effect of thinning bones
The bones of breast cancer patients age prematurely as a result of chemotherapy and aromatase inhibitor therapy. Tamoxifen drug is bone-sparing while aromatase inhibitors cause bone loss." Examples of aromatase inhibitors include anastrozole, sold as Arimidex, and exemestane sold as Aromasin.

Red wine versus white wine as a nutritional aromatase inhibitor in premenopausal women: a pilot study.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22150098


Anti aromatase chemicals in red wine.
http://science.naturalnews.com/2002/5535..._wine.html


Resveratrol is another flavenoid covered on our web site – we have featured research on it from Harvard several times in Cancer Watch. It is the natural protective agent in the skins of red grapes and black and red berries.

Finally there is chrysin, a flavonoid from the passion flower plant and a strong natural AI with clear research supporting its effects. Drugs have been prepared from this plant, but the natural compound also exists as a supplement Another natural compound, piperine, enhances its action..


Possibly the most potent natural compound is Indole 3 Carbinol,


Aromatase Inhibitors
Foods that inhibit aromatase include blueberries, celery, sour cherries, cranberries, red grapes, purple grape juice, horseradish, kale, tomatoes, white button mushrooms and cruciferous vegetables such as broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower and Brussels sprouts. FoodForBreastCancer.com says these foods also enhance the effectiveness of aromatase inhibitors. If you have estrogen-dependent breast cancer, seek the advice of your oncologist before including these foods in your diet.

[Lotus]

Wow, this one is cool,

18 NATURAL AROMATASE INHIBITORS
http://marnieclark.com/18-natural-aromatase-inhibitors/

The research is from here: (marnieclark translates it into english though)

Natural Products as Aromatase Inhibitors
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074486/

[Lenneth]

Aromatase Inhibitors
Foods that inhibit aromatase include blueberries, celery, sour cherries, cranberries, red grapes, purple grape juice, horseradish, kale, tomatoes, white button mushrooms and cruciferous vegetables such as broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower and Brussels sprouts. FoodForBreastCancer.com says these foods also enhance the effectiveness of aromatase inhibitors. If you have estrogen-dependent breast cancer, seek the advice of your oncologist before including these foods in your diet.

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I like 90+% of those.....

[Lotus]

Aromatase Inhibitors
Foods that inhibit aromatase include blueberries, celery, sour cherries, cranberries, red grapes, purple grape juice, horseradish, kale, tomatoes, white button mushrooms and cruciferous vegetables such as broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower and Brussels sprouts. FoodForBreastCancer.com says these foods also enhance the effectiveness of aromatase inhibitors. If you have estrogen-dependent breast cancer, seek the advice of your oncologist before including these foods in your diet.

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I like 90+% of those.....

Lol so do I, in fact I just had some red grapes!! Ha!

We're never gonna catch a break are we?.

[Lenneth]

Aromatase Inhibitors
Foods that inhibit aromatase include blueberries, celery, sour cherries, cranberries, red grapes, purple grape juice, horseradish, kale, tomatoes, white button mushrooms and cruciferous vegetables such as broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower and Brussels sprouts. FoodForBreastCancer.com says these foods also enhance the effectiveness of aromatase inhibitors. If you have estrogen-dependent breast cancer, seek the advice of your oncologist before including these foods in your diet.

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I like 90+% of those.....

Lol so do I, in fact I just had some red grapes!! Ha!

We're never gonna catch a break are we?.

I guess not, heck the only 2 things on that list I don't like is Horseradish & sour Cherries...