Re: I use natureday and the growth is very rapid vs pm
I'm guessing that's the Fenugreek in the Natureday.

Re: Has anyone here done the whole omg I have slight breasts I gotta stop before I get too noticeable
No doubt many have. If not when one starts to notice results, even more so when you sense others are starting to notice as well.

Re: with a wife...I'd love kids and don't want to embarrass anyone
Even without a wife/gf/SO or kids, one can still be susceptible to feeling like you're embarrassing others, or oneself.

Re: "addiction" "suppressing things" "fantasy gone wrong"
That's the $64,000 question that can really only be answered by some very honest self reflection.
Is this really what I want for myself and why? If this were primarily an addiction to a fantasy, would I still want this for myself knowing that?

Such good insight there thanks! I often wonder if my perversion exposure has altered my reality with fantasy due to the years Id watch sissy videos trans porn experiment with men and cams etc I was lost in that crap for years I began in 2010 and been more off then obviously but as of this past year I've been all in when I order product and now that I see me getting more in shape and my chest take on a shape of it's own pushing out my shirts I get worried. My wife has no idea but I ask if they look bigger and she says no but when we make love now I see her looking at my chest now and know it's cause it jiggles and moves now. But a part of me goes f it if they are official breasts now may as well go tor a C cup naive that Id still be able to hide them in my fitted shirts

Ha

I kept mr happy very happy last night

and now feel all normal today

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Julie

Thats great that you have been to a therapist and you know where you are. If you have no desire to dress of to feminize then grow your breasts until you are happy with there size, enjoy them and then go about doing your boy things until you feel the urge to work the boobs. You dont have to go to DD's. Give them a massage once in a while and find a size your comfortable with.
Then you can enjoy both parts of your life. and keep Mr Happy Happy.
Bobbi

Haha that would be delightful, I'm just curious how much of a reality that can be being married. I feel you can only play the idk why i growing boobs card for so long before concern becomes suspicion. Being a woman is not something I identify with at all not even close but having breasts has become what feels a part of me that's missing physically. But the fear of stares and glares and such worry me and being insecure as it is it doesn't help. Any insight in how to quit caring

Thats great that you have been to a therapist and you know where you are. If you have no desire to dress of to feminize then grow your breasts until you are happy with there size, enjoy them and then go about doing your boy things until you feel the urge to work the boobs. You dont have to go to DD's. Give them a massage once in a while and find a size your comfortable with.
Then you can enjoy both parts of your life. and keep Mr Happy Happy.
Bobbi

Haha that would be delightful, I'm just curious how much of a reality that can be being married. I feel you can only play the idk why i growing boobs card for so long before concern becomes suspicion. Being a woman is not something I identify with at all not even close but having breasts has become what feels a part of me that's missing physically. But the fear of stares and glares and such worry me and being insecure as it is it doesn't help. Any insight in how to quit caring

AGE will do it!
However I'm 68 and your 30. I can tell you for sure that when your less than 50yo you worry about about presentation, acting professional, caring what people think and say. Looking out for your future is probably the best way to put it.
After you hit 50 you give a shit less about trying to impress anyone cause the retirement is in the future, your family is formed and growing/grown, what ever you made of your career is set, and you look back at all the stuff you wanted to do but were too sane and chicken.
Then is the time to let yourself loose, your T is depleting and your boobs are growing by them selves, assuming you have some extra fat on ya. You can blame your boob growth on your age and weight, and give it a little boost with some herbs!
And you will feel the urge to start taking care of your self, lose weight, tone up and let those booby's shine.
There, its easy, just need some time.
Bobbi

I feel if I wait 20 more years I'll just forget all about it can only lurk for so long before acting on it and without either or it's just a forgotten task. And in 20 years I can only imagine how easy it will be to develop. Given men are much more feminine in the teens to young adult range now so much so covergirl and others have developed make up and fashion lines for men interested in indulging. I'm def just chicken but I wonder what my life would be if I had b to c cup breasts I wonder if ppl would notice or if they would care of if they would buy my excuses and if my wife would let me wear a bra given I'm quite muscular arms and legs and back wise and masculine in my life but idk I'm just tired of wondering and wanting to just do it

Well the good news is that your boobs will not me popping out of your chest for some time.. Unless you ramp up your program to the overload level.
You seem to know whats important in your life, So let that be you guide on when to grow and when to whoah.
Bobbi

Re: After you hit 50...your T is depleting and your boobs are growing by them selves

Lol...that reminded me of the dinner scene and Tony Montana's observations on hitting 50 in Scarface!

https://youtu.be/bMvHX-kh5VM?t=49s

:49 to 1:24 (If you stray beyond that, it gets pretty rough)

My OMG moment wasn't so much the boobs (which if noticeable in a shirt, look like 50 y/o man-boobs) but my hips & ass. This just happened in the last two weeks. I've been on PM a little over a year with start/stops between orders. Not withstanding the initial pink-fog freak out, but I noticed a major body change recently. Hips/ass/waist, thinner hands, legs & feet from fat-shift. Also old woman flabby "wings" & double-chin. 

So, yeah . . .

I'm in the same boat. I'm hoping that there will be some acceptance from those closest to me and when I need to hide them I can with loose clothing and some sort of minimizer. 

Still there's the pool or beach, what then? I'm not sure...

But on the plus side I've noticed that I'm a happier more positive person now that I've made peace with this side of myself. I believe that years from now our culture will be much more accepting of the gender spectrum and its physical and social expression regardless of the M or F stamped on our driver's license, but we're not there yet unfortunately.

Thats great that you have been to a therapist and you know where you are. If you have no desire to dress of to feminize then grow your breasts until you are happy with there size, enjoy them and then go about doing your boy things until you feel the urge to work the boobs. You dont have to go to DD's. Give them a massage once in a while and find a size your comfortable with.
Then you can enjoy both parts of your life. and keep Mr Happy Happy.
Bobbi

Haha that would be delightful, I'm just curious how much of a reality that can be being married. I feel you can only play the idk why i growing boobs card for so long before concern becomes suspicion. Being a woman is not something I identify with at all not even close but having breasts has become what feels a part of me that's missing physically. But the fear of stares and glares and such worry me and being insecure as it is it doesn't help. Any insight in how to quit caring

In the beginning I had the "what am I doing " thoughts.  But now that I've had some good growth my thought process is like yours.   They feel like the part that has been missing my entire life.  I'm currently  a large 38b and would like to be more like a c/d with more fullness on the sides.  I really love that feeling of waking up in the morning, reaching for the alarm and feeling my boob hitting the inside of my bicept.