(05-03-2019, 06:22 PM)Nipply Russel Wrote: (05-03-2019, 08:35 AM)Beverley50 Wrote: PS:
Slightly off-subject - It is my personal belief that not ALL males are made for transitioning. I have a few friends in my trans group who really should stick to just dressing up. They look gross in female clothing, and nothing is going to make them appear feminine. Just imaging a 6'3 welder or mechanic with a bony structure like a tower crane, a thick jaw, big bony elbows and knees, semi bald and with hands like wrenches . . . . . . . dressed up like a woman. It would be funny as hell at a party though. And take note, I am not being ugly or judgmental. I speak from personal experience, having been close conversation with people like this. I've seen big muscular men cry like women because deep inside they know its impossible and unrealistic for them to transition successfully.
^ This
I recently got into a bit of an argument with some people who were trying to argue that "they're letting kids just choose gender and then they put them on blockers and hormones and stuff."
I argued that while kids are kids and prone to premature judgement without the wisdom that comes with experience, many of them KNOW that their brain's gender is different from their body's/assigned one and that puberty is a crushing transition for these people. They have to stand by and watch their body change into something that is repulsive to them.
The folks I was speaking with argued that they should go through puberty normally, but it will usually "sort itself out." Very frustrating conversation.
I have to agree with Beverly and Nipply here. I get VERY frustrated on two aspects of "us":
- The Trenders, who aren't really trans (no dysphoria) and want to be "unique" or "special", and actually are doing immense harm to those who MUST transition
- Those who claim "it's just a stage," especially when the child has been acting cross-sex since birth (E.G., a Jazz Jennings)
The second is a problem in a second way, also: as children, we learn to hide who we are. How many parents worked to beat the gay away? Tried to "toughen up" their son, or feminize their daughter, when they Just Aren't Wired That Way? Giving cross-sex hormones to a child who IS NOT dysphoric will induce dysphoria, but if we have learned to hide our nature early on, won't the children being forced into this, hide their discomfort, too? (Thinking Münchhausen by Proxy, for Woke Points, if you will). But denying treatment for those who ARE dysphoric is ALSO abuse.
And now that things are so politicized, can we even get decent (unbiased) research on this? I can only hope... Though with corporations seeking to patent human DNA, I need to wonder WTF people are thinking. Are they unaware, or do they truly Not Care?
=Dianna