[krypto]

Im new here and wanted to introduce myself.. im a 31 yr old male in ohio,united states.. i came here for information on NBE.. specifically PM..
because ive been curious about growing breasts for a few years now. but all i want is a little bit of growth to make wearing my lingerie more fulfilling..

Ive read this forum from top to bottom and found a vast amount of information.. that being said.. im still on the fence about taking PM because i love sex,i dont want to lose my drive,i dont want to lose erections,nor do i want things to shrivel up.. ive read about going off an on but still unsure.. maybe using the cream would be better.. i have just ordered a noogleberry kit for my nipples,maybe ill get the breast cups to go along with it..
anywho.. i just wanted to tell a bit about why im here.. an to wish all you ladies the best in your quest for breasts and anything else your wanting in life..

thanks...

[Missed Miss]

I would, then, suggest you do it via massage, hypnosis, Rockmellon, subliminal messages or pumping, something that won't make Mr. Sticky into Mr. Droopy!
Welcome to the forum!! Tons of luck with your new additions!!

[Samantha Rogers]

Hi Krypto,
Welcome to the board. I hope you find what you are looking for. You will find acceptance and support and lots of information here. What you will not find is answers, because the answers are only in you. This road is rarely if ever going to take you where you expect. So if you are not ready to adapt and change, now is the time to stop.
But if you do start, you will meet a lot of somewhat fragile but none the less beautiful, wonderful, caring people. No one comes here who is 100% whole...we are all seeking something we do not understand. You are too.
No one here will judge you. If you want it and surrender to it, you are home. And you are welcome home, honey.
Noogleberry and other suction devices will give you some temporary satisfaction. I don't know anyone who has achieved real permanent growth through suction. Low doses of PM and other herbs will help calm anxiety produced by a Gender Dysphoria. But low doses will not produce growth. High doses will, but they will also carry additional affects you apparently do not desire.
Sorry.
Those are just the facts.
You can't really have it both ways, though lots of people try. Maybe you will be different. I hope so.
But you will really win if you are honest with yourself. If this is a fetishist sex thing you would be better to buy yourself some silicone breasts. Or just keeping it as a fantasy. On the other hand, if there is something deeper going on, then you would be better being honest with yourself. You will move faster that way.
Either way, it makes no difference. You are still welcome. Really. No judgement, just love.
The rest is up to you,honey.
Hugs

[flamesabers]

Hello Krypto.

Welcome to the board.

I agree with Samantha: you can't get it both ways. If you really want to grow breasts, it'll come with a price tag. If you take pm long enough and at a sufficient dose, I would say expect a moderate to severe decrease in your libido and functionality. All may not be lost though. A number of members report their breasts becoming a very erogenous zone, so you may not have to sacrifice all sexual pleasures to gain a pair of breasts.

Either way, feel free to post more about your desire to have breasts or any concerns you have about your gender identity.

[Karren]

Try suction devices... they work and don't effect anything especially you sex drive.... like I really have one... Welcome!

[krypto]

Thanks so much for the warm welcome... i guess i never really thought i had GD..but after really researching it..i guess you could say i do to some extent (light crossdressing) i dont desire to be female but i do desire SOME charactoristics.. My fiance supports or tolerates my crossdressing but would be against *noticeable* body mods.. but im sure i can get away with atleast a b cup... but as you said *you never know where this journey will take you*

I guess you could say some of it is related to fetish,im a very open sexual person that wants to experience everything... but then some of it is about feeling sexy.. i go through different moods where i take long baths an shave my legs,smell feminine,wear lingerie..then it passes... one thing that always bothers me though, is i want to really fit into my bra.. nothing big just fit... all in all i still love my dangly bits too...

I decided im going to try 1 bottle of PM an see how i feel about it all an how it affects me... shouldnt hurt right?? or maybe im opening pandoras box! who knows.. you only live once right??

[Samantha Rogers]

Thanks so much for the warm welcome... i guess i never really thought i had GD..but after really researching it..i guess you could say i do to some extent (light crossdressing) i dont desire to be female but i do desire SOME charactoristics.. My fiance supports or tolerates my crossdressing but would be against *noticeable* body mods.. but im sure i can get away with atleast a b cup... but as you said *you never know where this journey will take you*

I guess you could say some of it is related to fetish,im a very open sexual person that wants to experience everything... but then some of it is about feeling sexy.. i go through different moods where i take long baths an shave my legs,smell feminine,wear lingerie..then it passes... one thing that always bothers me though, is i want to really fit into my bra.. nothing big just fit... all in all i still love my dangly bits too...

I decided im going to try 1 bottle of PM an see how i feel about it all an how it affects me... shouldnt hurt right?? or maybe im opening pandoras box! who knows.. you only live once right??

Honey, you are going to fit in here just fine!
Welcome aboard!

[GoneGirl]

Let me offer you my welcome, as well, Krypto.

I agree with everything that has been written above, but I want to give another point of view and expand on something you, yourself, alluded to -- Pandora's Box.

I initially approached PM the same way you are -- with a desire to keep my male sexual function intact -- because I'm in a relationship where my partner wants to have vaginal sexual intercourse from time to time. We are in our 60's, post menopausal, so frequency has gone way down. At your tender age, being able to have normal man-woman intercourse is probably a much more important consideration.

Aside from suction gadgets that require hours of time to achieve results, I believe the PM is the best way to grow small breasts slowly and still maintain your male sexual function. Here's how:

Ramp up to a dosage of PM where your nipples start to tingle, ache or itch. Stay at that dosage, or even try coming down a bit if the feelings can be maintained. Along with the PM, take a daily dose of Butea Superba and L-Arginine. They will compensate for the negative effects of PM on your sex drive. You may not feel the urge to have sex as much, but you should be able to achieve an erection with a little foreplay and have intercourse with your lover. If the erection is a bit weaker than you're used to, and your doctor says it's okay, take a generic Viagra (sildenafil citrate) an hour before sex. I use Suhagra-100 that I buy on-line for about a buck a pill these days. If you have to increase your PM to get breast growth and you find it increasingly difficult to achieve an erection, take a PM break for one week out of the month. The key is to straddle the hormonal fence. You won't be quite as virile as you are now, but you will likely be able to get some breast growth. It will take many months to achieve anything that will fill up a bra, though, so you have to be very patient.

BTW, if you intend to have children someday, it would not be a bad idea to freeze some sperm in case you become infertile along the way. That's not likely with the above approach, but it is Pandora's Box after all. Once you start taking PM, it's not just your body that changes, but also your brain.

Again welcome, we'd love to have you join us on our trek through gender land. It should turn out to be an exciting journey for you.

Clara

[MichelleM]

Let me offer you my welcome, as well, Krypto.

I agree with everything that has been written above, but I want to give another point of view and expand on something you, yourself, alluded to -- Pandora's Box.

I initially approached PM the same way you are -- with a desire to keep my male sexual function intact -- because I'm in a relationship where my partner wants to have vaginal sexual intercourse from time to time. We are in our 60's, post menopausal, so frequency has gone way down. At your tender age, being able to have normal man-woman intercourse is probably a much more important consideration.

Aside from suction gadgets that require hours of time to achieve results, I believe the PM is the best way to grow small breasts slowly and still maintain your male sexual function. Here's how:

Ramp up to a dosage of PM where your nipples start to tingle, ache or itch. Stay at that dosage, or even try coming down a bit if the feelings can be maintained. Along with the PM, take a daily dose of Butea Superba and L-Arginine. They will compensate for the negative effects of PM on your sex drive. You may not feel the urge to have sex as much, but you should be able to achieve an erection with a little foreplay and have intercourse with your lover. If the erection is a bit weaker than you're used to, take a generic Viagra (sildenafil citrate) an hour before sex. I use Suhagra-100 that I buy on-line for about a buck a pill these days. If you have to increase your PM to get breast growth and you find it increasingly difficult to achieve an erection, take a PM break for one week out of the month. The key is to straddle the hormonal fence. You won't be quite as virile as you are now, but you will likely be able to get some breast growth. It will take many months to achieve anything that will fill up a bra, though, so you have to be very patient.

BTW, if you intend to have children someday, it would not be a bad idea to freeze some sperm in case you become infertile along the way. That's not likely with the above approach, but it is Pandora's Box after all. Once you start taking PM, it's not just your body that changes, but also your brain.

Again welcome, we'd love to have you join us on our trek through gender land. It should turn out to be an exciting journey for you.

Clara

I would suggest posting this over in the FAQ sub-forum. I can see this being referred to many times.

[krypto]

Thanks soo much for your information claraKay..that will more than likely be the regimen i will follow..given i respond ok to PM,my body may not like it..i hope however that is not the case. we engage in intercourse probably once a week since our financials havent allowed us to move in together..her libido oviously isnt as high as mine,i tend to take care of myself a lot...she is a very *vanilla* gal in bed,more of the romance type.. so it might not be a bad thing to slow things down a bit and be more in touch with that spectrum rather than the primal male mating ritual. I just dont want to not be able to rise to the occasion...I wish i could tell her what i want to do..maybe one day..

All this sounds so wonderful,exciting,a little scary.. but one thing thats got me all wound up is,ive been reading as many threads on here as i possibly can..im addcited..but i came acrossed a post about someone who had a freak pulmonary embolism that may or may not have been caused by PM and that fact that they were an avid nicotine user.. *scary*
I dont smoke anymore "persay".. i quit by using the electronic devices that use vapor as a means of delivery.. *water,nicotine,somekinda flavoring..
The nicotine in this is pure.. i believe nicotine by itself is no different than caffeine.. however theres still the question.. is mixing nicotine with herbal E still dangerous regardless of *how* you get it.. i still use this device regularly...i havent been able to find any info on the subject though...